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Old May 14th, 2008, 07:24 PM   #90
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Except there was no legal basis for this demand to produce ID. You seem to think the police can demand ID at any time, and this is "reasonable."
Yes, you can be asked for ID at any time. And, n this case, it was not unreasonable. I simply cannot fathom why anyone would not simply show a drivers license. This mythical 'right to privacy' is just a sham for those who want to be, simply stated, a petulant child.

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The bottom line is that the police were ignorant of state carry law, and used that ignorance to bootstrap the rest of it.
No, the bottom line is that the patrons were obstructing a police investigation. They failed to comply with the simplest of courteous discourse and they were treated badly because of it. Do you think it is a good thing to obstruct police as long as it is legal for you to do so?

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That's a subservient police state mentality which is fortunately not shared by everyone.
I have a feeling that everyone who thinks this is, or we are headed towards, a police state have never actually visited a place that is a police state.

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No actually, reflexive subservience to illegal and pushy police requests is what's detrimental to our rights as Americans.
Our rights are intact. No laws were changed. The only thing these people accomplished was getting their restaruant to post. Frankly, I don't blame them one bit after this nonsense.
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