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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:04 AM   #21
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Lima, great post.

I definately agree that you should have some sort of weapon accessible to both hands.

I always carry something on my weak-side. If I have to have my shirt tucked in, etc. then it ends up being a gun on my strong side and a folder on each side. For EDC when I can dress how I choose, I carry a push-dagger on my left side and a folder or FB on my right in addition to my pistol.

I think that push-daggers and knives like the TDI excell in this role as they are very intuitive and "gross motor" to use. As most of us do not have as much dexterity with our weak hand, it is nice to have a tool that does not require a lot of skill. With either the PD or the TDI, merely grab the knife and start punching or ripping.

As I've said (time and time again) in other threads, the need for effective H2H skills can not be understated. However that doesn't mean you shouldn't have options available in the weapons department...you need a layered defense strategy.

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Originally Posted by Hopyard
Great, but at exactly what point would lethal force (use of the knife) be justified?

I can imagine situations where someone might suddenly grab you by the arm because they recognize a long lost friend; or need to pull you out of harms way--an oncoming vehicle.

The violet quick response (love it really) though might not be lawful.

At what point is thrusting it in and giving it a twist justified.

(Assume the guy has no weapon and has only said---fill in your own dialog for discussion purposes.)
No one said you should automatically shank anyone who touches you, let's use a little common sense here.

In the type of situation that started the thread, I see no problem with application of deadly force. You have a woman grabbed by a man who she doesn't know and who is significantly larger and stronger. If he does not immediately comply with an order to "back the **** off," then it's time to show him what his guts look like. Then, once he does let go, draw your pistol and be ready to use it if necessary as you are getting the hell out of there.
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