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Old June 3rd, 2008, 03:11 PM   #4
AzQkr
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SixBravo,

First I'd like to thank you for attending the ITFTS training event in Flagstaff this last weekend, secondly for your thoughts here on the training provided to those who may one day need to defend themselves with a handgun.

It sounds bad to say this, but off the top of my head I cannot remember everything I was taught.

Some of the 14 seperate skills which were presented and covered in two days were:

elbow up/elbow down [ Fairbairn/Sykes 1/2 hip ]

Fairbairn/Sykes 3/4 hip [ eye/hand coordination skills to shoot where you are looking ]

F/S point shoulder [ eye/hand coordination skills to shoot where you are looking at greater distances ]

zipper [ shooting from the hip to full extension as soon as the gun is drawn from the holster putting 4-5 rds on threat before you reached full extension ]

bump [ body and head shots from the hip ]

Quick Kill from the hip [ more than one threat with the elbow placed in the "pocket" in front of the hip ]

Quick Kill [ peripheral vision shooting skills ] from 5 yrds out to 70 yrds ]

shooting an immediate threat behind you without moving your feet or turning to face the threat and then the same skill with movement to get out of the kill zone while continuing to fire rapidly [ you'll remember this one as "winding up, and the "unwinding" with movement ].

High compressed ready

"Sprint and hits" [ exploding out of the kill zone left and right one handed to the weak side, two handed to the strong side ]

Flat out running laterally to the threat while firing from both the strong side and weak side. [ I'll be dead honest, I have NEVER seen or heard of a more stable or accurate firing technique for shooting on the move.] Quick Kill gets your focus on the threat, not the gun. Do you remember the analogy of walking with the full cup of coffee and why threat focused skills such as Quick Kill allow you to smooth out the guns movement while running?

"Enhanced Peripheral Vision" [ two guns fired simultaneously on two threats 6 feet apart [ one gun in each hand ] without looking at either threat from about 8 feet out ] This skill gets the students to advance the idea of further expanding/developing the use of your peripheral vision. Enhanced Peripheral Vision © - Threat Focused Forums

Everyone got to shoot my sightless 45 govt model with the Quick Kill skills. My "Sightless" 45 used for training purposes - Threat Focused Forums

Saturday nights shoot off with the shotguns after I showed everyone the rifle Quick Kill with the bb gun was a blast. Your considerable skills with that pistol gripped shotty on ariels was a real treat for me personally. I'd never have imagined it was possible with the hit %'s you were having if I hadn't seen it myself. Very, very nice sir.

I hope everyone picked up some good ideas on the gun disarming side of SD situations in Sunday afternoons demonstrations/exercises. Most people make disarms too complicated which adversely affects a successful outcome here. You should now understand that if you can touch the gun, you can take it away without being shot.

Your review brought up a few points that I'd like to address while we're at it here:

Some schools spend a lot of time on handhold, trigger control issues. If you'll remember, I was able to adjust a few students handhold/trigger finger control on the fly while they were shooting which increased their hits exponentially immediately.

Another big time consumer in some schools is their idea of a "proper" or safe draw stroke. I briefly touched on the "scoop" draw I use, but there was no training time spent in attempting to correct anyones draw stroke in anyway. I find that most students quickly develop their draw stroke in the ITFTS courses without much intervention/corrective measures.

If you remember, I asked the students to go full speed on the command to fire from the holster in the afternoon the first day, and everyone was at or under a one second draw stroke to first shot on threat. Your mind and body are capable of determining how to get the gun out in the fastest possible manner without spending valuable training time on someone else's idea of a "correct" draw stroke.

Not one student came close to dropping their firearm when asked to go full tilt from the holster to shots on threat without effort/time spent advocating one draw stroke method over another. I prefer to challenge/push the students in speed and find students quickly figure out the fastest way to execute the skill from their holster with their own unique body structure.

Again, I thank you for your input and thoughts on the training I provide relative real world self defense skills which will increase the chances of surviving a potential lethal encounter with a sidearm/handgun based on the "time/distance" equation presented on the streets.

Looking forward to training with you again in the future. We had a great weekend in Flagstaff. It's personally rewarding to watch students arrive with varying degrees of gun handling skills easily picking up the skills presented in the ITFTS course of fire in such a short time. It goes without saying that if you can replicate the skills presented almost immediately that the skills take advantage of ones own natural ability.

As you mentioned, ITFTS opens doors to using ones natural eye/hand coordination and physical abilities we all generally possess.

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