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Originally Posted by Kerbouchard
Your math is different than mine...The way it reads to me is 68/73 people have never had a part break or have had to send it into the shop and out of the 5/73 that had to repair/replace a part, 3/5 of them have been perfect afterwards. That seems a lot higher of a percentile than some people would have you to believe.
I would say that a similar poll on just about any brand would return like results. There are many guns that are extraordinarily reliable with 9 out of 10 types of ammo, but if you give it that one 'kryptonian type' ammo, it will hiccup all day long. The poll did not address if those problems 'after break in' were ammo related, or magazine related(probably the most common), or user related(i.e. limp wristing).
The poll simply asked if there had been ANY problems after break in. By those standards, I would say my XD and most of the Glocks, and just about every other 1911 will fall into 'at least a problem' after break in. If you hand a new shooter of small stature a Glock, there is a decent chance there will be a fail to feed/fail to eject because of limp wristing.
I liked the poll and I especially liked the results. Yes, there are some problems with just about every machine you could ever own. If you ever check out a BMW/Porsche/camera/fishing/any type of forum, you are going to find people who had a certain problem with just about any product.
If the results of the poll do not satisfy you, then by all means, do not purchase a Kimber. But if you posted the same poll asking about an XD or a Glock or a Sig, I believe you would get very similar results.
Regards,
Kerb
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Hi Kerb,
Out of 84 responses there were 20 who had problems after the break-in. That is 23.8%.
I am considering that problems are problems regardless of whether the gun required parts replaced or not.
I am convinced that we tend to be overly defensive regarding 1911s, and make excuses. It is always the magazine or a spring, or some ammo that the gun did not like. But a malfunction is so no matter the cause. I have not seen such problems with Glocks. I might add that one of my best friends is a Glock armorer, and was a 1911 fan, and a gunsmith. He goes to training classes where all brands of guns are used, and while there are malfunctions with most brands when large amounts of ammo are fired the Glocks have very few, and not anywhere near the number of problems shown in the poll. The LE agency he belongs to uses Glocks with very few problems.
Another of my friends was a police chief, and went to the Glocks some years ago. Problems are almost non-existent, but limp wristing is an occasional problem with the .40.
I only own one Glock, a G26, but in several thousand rounds it has malfunctioned only once early on and that was with a Cor Bon round. That is the only one and I shoot mostly reloads including HP and FMJ. It just always works. It did not take 200 rounds of expensive ammo to find that it was reliable.
There are a total of 6 1911s in my safe, and I don’t need another, but wouldn’t buy a Kimber. I prefer the SA due to the better CA, and in my opinion an equal or better gun.
Regards,
Jerry