Know the condition of your Glock? - Page 3

Patti · January 9th, 2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ram Rod

You know...I figured this wouldn't be long before it appeared. I figure it warrants another separate thread in the forum instead of dragging one down. How's about posting about that and rotating your carry rounds in the magazine and so forth? And shooting up your carry rounds when it's time? Why not just take a poll of those who do just as I do and unload at some point in the day? Solicit the LEO's who administratively load and unload each day and how much of an issue it is with them?

In and out of the safe....in and out of the holster.....against your body, or on the couch? In my opinion, leaving a loaded chamber Glock induces complacency over time and then we hear about the ND's. I appreciate the challenge, and we appreciate your support.
BTW...I already know about bullet set back.

I hate to sound ignorant, but what is "ND"?

AzQkr · January 9th, 2009, 05:58 PM

ND=Negligent Discharge

Brownie

H8SPVMT · January 10th, 2009, 12:19 AM

My DC is always "hot." No need to wonder it's condition.

If there were, a simple "Chamber Check" would suffice to let me know.

BTW Chamber Checks can be done in the day light and total darkness, safely (with practice).

Oh and BTW todays Glocks come with and most can be retro fitted with a Loaded Chamber Indicator. Simply a added bump on the extractor that you can feel and see.

Ram Rod · January 10th, 2009, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H8SPVMT

My DC is always "hot." No need to wonder it's condition.

If there were, a simple "Chamber Check" would suffice to let me know.

BTW Chamber Checks can be done in the day light and total darkness, safely (with practice).

Oh and BTW todays Glocks come with and most can be retro fitted with a Loaded Chamber Indicator. Simply a added bump on the extractor that you can feel and see.

Yeah...my G19 came that way. it's the only one I have with a feel bump on the extractor. Obviously Glock felt the need to do this to prevent the uneducated dumbness that makes some Glock owners shoot themselves.

KenpoTex · January 10th, 2009, 12:54 AM

I keep mine (at least the one I carry) loaded unless I'm unloading it to clean it...no reason to fiddle with it. I don't see how leaving it loaded and knowing it's always loaded is going to induce complacency. If anything, messing with it several times per day would seem to increase chances of a ND.

AzQkr · January 10th, 2009, 01:01 AM

If anything, messing with it several times per day would seem to increase chances of a ND.

I agree, the less you are loading/unloading and manipulating the firearm [ unless absolutely necessary for some reason ], the less chance of having an ND.

Brownie

mulle46 · January 12th, 2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram Rod

Yeah...my G19 came that way. it's the only one I have with a feel bump on the extractor. Obviously Glock felt the need to do this to prevent the uneducated dumbness that makes some Glock owners shoot themselves.

I may be wrong, but I think it (feel bump) has more to do with making the Glock acceptable to the more restrictive states, as that would be a loaded chamber indicator as mandated by some states. OMO.

H8SPVMT · January 12th, 2009, 11:15 PM

Waaasss the first rule of safety? "Handle all firearms as if their loaded."

So, why not keep that way till you're not going to use it for some time.

BUFF · January 17th, 2009, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H8SPVMT

Waaasss the first rule of safety? "Handle all firearms as if their loaded."

So, why not keep that way till you're not going to use it for some time.

Amen brother, and booger hook off the bang button! And even completely and totally outside of the bang button guard!

Boomstick no go boom unless Ogg put booger hook on bang switch and go ape on it!

H8SPVMT · February 1st, 2009, 08:59 PM

Contrary to popular belief, you can store a Glock with a round in the chamber and the trigger in the pulled position. Please just take my word on this and DO NOT try to do this with a live round, there simply is no reason to store a gun in this position.

Please follow the owners manual that came with your firearm for the proper storage techniques.

Even storing an “empty gun” requires that you treat it as a loaded firearm until you determine it is, in fact, unloaded. Ever time you pick your gun up after is has been out of sight IMO you should use good judgment and check the condition.

Please remember too, always ensure the slide is in the locked open position before handing a Glock to another person so they can check the chamber too for their safety.

January 9th, 2009, 05:58 PM	#22
AzQkr Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In the Superstitions Posts: 1,771	ND=Negligent Discharge Brownie __________________ The mind is the limiting factor http://www.threatfocused.com/forums/index.php

January 10th, 2009, 12:19 AM	#23
H8SPVMT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SC Posts: 166	My DC is always "hot." No need to wonder it's condition. If there were, a simple "Chamber Check" would suffice to let me know. BTW Chamber Checks can be done in the day light and total darkness, safely (with practice). Oh and BTW todays Glocks come with and most can be retro fitted with a Loaded Chamber Indicator. Simply a added bump on the extractor that you can feel and see. __________________ SC GrassRootsGunRights Certified Glock Armorer

January 10th, 2009, 12:54 AM	#25
KenpoTex VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 2,140	I keep mine (at least the one I carry) loaded unless I'm unloading it to clean it...no reason to fiddle with it. I don't see how leaving it loaded and knowing it's always loaded is going to induce complacency. If anything, messing with it several times per day would seem to increase chances of a ND. __________________ "Being a predator isn't always comfortable but the only other option is to be prey. That is not an acceptable option." ~Phil Messina If you carry in Condition 3, you have two empty chambers. One in the weapon...the other between your ears. Matt K.

January 10th, 2009, 01:01 AM	#26
AzQkr Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In the Superstitions Posts: 1,771	If anything, messing with it several times per day would seem to increase chances of a ND. I agree, the less you are loading/unloading and manipulating the firearm [ unless absolutely necessary for some reason ], the less chance of having an ND. Brownie __________________ The mind is the limiting factor http://www.threatfocused.com/forums/index.php

January 12th, 2009, 11:15 PM	#28
H8SPVMT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SC Posts: 166	Waaasss the first rule of safety? "Handle all firearms as if their loaded." So, why not keep that way till you're not going to use it for some time. __________________ SC GrassRootsGunRights Certified Glock Armorer

February 1st, 2009, 08:59 PM	#30
H8SPVMT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SC Posts: 166	Contrary to popular belief, you can store a Glock with a round in the chamber and the trigger in the pulled position. Please just take my word on this and DO NOT try to do this with a live round, there simply is no reason to store a gun in this position. Please follow the owners manual that came with your firearm for the proper storage techniques. Even storing an “empty gun” requires that you treat it as a loaded firearm until you determine it is, in fact, unloaded. Ever time you pick your gun up after is has been out of sight IMO you should use good judgment and check the condition. Please remember too, always ensure the slide is in the locked open position before handing a Glock to another person so they can check the chamber too for their safety. __________________ SC GrassRootsGunRights Certified Glock Armorer

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