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| Basic Gun Handling & Safety Basic handling and safety are two of the most important aspects of responsible gun ownership. This area is devoted to the basics and we hope new gun owners will utilize it as a reference, as well as a comfortable place to ask questions. |
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![]() Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Florida
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I am so upset and angry, at myself and "someone else" involved.
Customer came to check out a pistol. Checked a couple of guns, an XD40 and a Sig P250. As usual, I checked them first and then handed him the weapon each time. Then, onto something different. He came in actually wanting an XD45 4" Compact, which I didn't exactly have. I did have a tactical length compact and also an XD45 Service 4". I handed him the XD45 5" compact and let him fondle it a bit. I didn't check it first. My mistake. He handed it back to me, also not checking it himself. I then took out the XD45 Service and decided to dismantle it and put the 4" slide onto the 5" compact frame so he could actually feel a "real" 4" compact model. So, I dismantled the XD45 Service and set the parts on the counter top. Now, to do the same with the tactical length compact. I removed the empty magazine and when I racked the slide back on the 5" compact to lock it back, the same one he had just been handling, a single round of .45acp fell through the empty magwell and hit the glass top counter! ![]() It had been chambered the whole time he was handling it!! ![]() No one to blame but myself. And I am just sick to my stomach and have been all afternoon since. What happened is this: Owner of the store occasionally carries some of the weapons we get in stock. I wish this didn't happen, but I don't own the store. He does. He had been carrying the XD45 Tactical compact for a few days, loaded and chambered. This morning, I asked him to leave it so I could show it to a customer. He did, he "unloaded it" and he placed it back into its gear box. Later on, when the customer got there, I slid the empty "compact" size magazine into the magwell. The magazine was empty. I never racked the slide. Never never never assume that ANYONE, no matter who they are, has completely unloaded a weapon!! Now you know the rest of the story.
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“I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry.” - Barack Obama Chicago Tribune, April 27, 2004 |
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![]() Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 621
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Don't beat yourself up over this. Learn and move on
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"When the people fear the government you have tyranny...when the government fears the people you have liberty." --Thomas Jefferson -- |
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Location: Central Florida
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Just a few moments and a lack of thinking can decide freedom :vs: incarceration...sometimes!
![]() Glad it was only a learning lesson. ![]()
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"That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member |
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Location: East TN&OH
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The oldogy is wiping the sweat from his brow just thinking about that one.
oldogy
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Government is out of control "If gun laws in fact worked, the sponsors of this type of legislation should have no difficulty drawing upon long lists of examples of crime rates reduced by such legislation. That they cannot do so after a century and a half of trying -- " Sen Orrin G. Hatch |
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Senior Member
![]() Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kentucky
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I'll bet anybody any amount of money you will NEVER do that again. You've learned your lesson and nobody got hurt.
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Having a gun and saying you're armed is like having a guitar and saying you're a musician. Jeff Cooper |
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Location: Kansas
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YEP... the key word ... "always".
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Distinguished Member
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Location: Texas
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The best safety for any weapon is the gray matter between your ears.....
I learned this back in 1988 from none other than Jeff Cooper, one of my many teachers.....
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"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined". - Patrick Henry |
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Senior Member
![]() Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Montana (resident) Utah (currently)
Posts: 1,092
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"Treat every firearm as if it were loaded"
Complacency is not a form of safety, no matter how much we think we know. There is no room for error, only mistake. Glad you discovered it before the customer.
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>>----> Keep it Concealed: "The Element of Surprise is Far Superior than the Target of Fate". |
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Location: Western Kentucky
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One of the selling points that convinced me to get an XD45 compact was that you can feel the top of the slide in the dark and tell if a round is chambered.
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Senior Member
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Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 935
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Every time I pick up one of my guns I lock the slide back and check the chamber, even though no one else has touched it. It's become automatic with me now.
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"Naked and Starving as They are We Cannot Enough Admire the Incomparable Patience and Fidelity of the Soldiery" – George Washington, Valley Forge, 1777. |
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