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Basic Gun Handling & Safety Basic handling and safety are two of the most important aspects of responsible gun ownership. This area is devoted to the basics and we hope new gun owners will utilize it as a reference, as well as a comfortable place to ask questions.

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Old May 5th, 2009, 10:19 PM   #1
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Exclamation Never assume its not chambered! Always check!!

I am so upset and angry, at myself and "someone else" involved.

Customer came to check out a pistol. Checked a couple of guns, an XD40 and a Sig P250. As usual, I checked them first and then handed him the weapon each time.

Then, onto something different. He came in actually wanting an XD45 4" Compact, which I didn't exactly have. I did have a tactical length compact and also an XD45 Service 4". I handed him the XD45 5" compact and let him fondle it a bit. I didn't check it first. My mistake.

He handed it back to me, also not checking it himself. I then took out the XD45 Service and decided to dismantle it and put the 4" slide onto the 5" compact frame so he could actually feel a "real" 4" compact model. So, I dismantled the XD45 Service and set the parts on the counter top.

Now, to do the same with the tactical length compact.

I removed the empty magazine and when I racked the slide back on the 5" compact to lock it back, the same one he had just been handling, a single round of .45acp fell through the empty magwell and hit the glass top counter!

It had been chambered the whole time he was handling it!!

No one to blame but myself. And I am just sick to my stomach and have been all afternoon since.

What happened is this:

Owner of the store occasionally carries some of the weapons we get in stock. I wish this didn't happen, but I don't own the store. He does.

He had been carrying the XD45 Tactical compact for a few days, loaded and chambered.

This morning, I asked him to leave it so I could show it to a customer. He did, he "unloaded it" and he placed it back into its gear box. Later on, when the customer got there, I slid the empty "compact" size magazine into the magwell. The magazine was empty. I never racked the slide.

Never never never assume that ANYONE, no matter who they are, has completely unloaded a weapon!!

Now you know the rest of the story.
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Old May 5th, 2009, 10:23 PM   #2
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Don't beat yourself up over this. Learn and move on
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Old May 5th, 2009, 10:42 PM   #3
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Just a few moments and a lack of thinking can decide freedom :vs: incarceration...sometimes!

Glad it was only a learning lesson.
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Old May 5th, 2009, 10:53 PM   #4
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Old May 5th, 2009, 11:01 PM   #5
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I'll bet anybody any amount of money you will NEVER do that again. You've learned your lesson and nobody got hurt.
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Old May 5th, 2009, 11:16 PM   #6
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YEP... the key word ... "always".
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Old May 5th, 2009, 11:33 PM   #7
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The best safety for any weapon is the gray matter between your ears.....

I learned this back in 1988 from none other than Jeff Cooper, one of my many teachers.....
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"Treat every firearm as if it were loaded"

Complacency is not a form of safety, no matter how much we think we know. There is no room for error, only mistake. Glad you discovered it before the customer.
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Old May 5th, 2009, 11:48 PM   #9
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One of the selling points that convinced me to get an XD45 compact was that you can feel the top of the slide in the dark and tell if a round is chambered.
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Old May 6th, 2009, 12:14 AM   #10
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Every time I pick up one of my guns I lock the slide back and check the chamber, even though no one else has touched it. It's become automatic with me now.
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