TucAzRider

Hotguns - I respect your possition as a LEO and instructor.. He didn't point the gun at the shadow, says he just pulled the Glock and shined with his flashlight,. As a hunter for 45+ years I'm sure you know that are 3:30am in the morning on private land you don't find extra hunters laying wait in the shadows. 9.99 chances it is nothing, but if there is something there, having a holstered weapon and searching for the "thing" isn't wise. That would be like you thinking possible there is someone in a house as your clearing it with your weapon holstered because you was afraid of pointing it at someone. Are you sure "beyond a shadow of a doubt of your target when clearing a house"???? There could be a child behind that door your going into and you still have your weapon in the ready position?? Right??

Yes people get die because of stupidity every year when hunting,.. But more all the time it is drunk people on state land,.. Or heart attacks,..

Oh,.. And the hunter in you had better not be trespassing on private land,.. You know better then that being a LEO...

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HotGuns

And yet it happens every day when hunting. People get shot in places where they aren't expected to be, all the more reason to be sure of where you are pointing the gun.

Saying that you didnt know they were there, or he wasnt suppose to be there is no defense in court.

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rocky

There are plenty of trespassers here in MI during deer season. The way I read it the OP did point his gun and light at the shadow. Bad idea IMO, I trust wild animals more than fellow hunters I don't know.

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TucAzRider

Agreed,..

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TucAzRider

I guess we need Thanis to clear this up... I didn't take it that way,.. Ready position I feel is ok,.. IMO.. (finger off the trigger) Pointing it is something I think we all agree on.. Not wise..

I'm sure different parts of Mi are better and worse about that. In the Northern lower MI we didn't have issues with that,. People knew where they could and couldn't.. I hunted back there over hundreds of acres (farmer rent tons of land) and never encountered people coming where they wasn't suppose to..

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rocky

Well since I am in N.Lwr MI I can say there are some trespassers up here still. Most of the time they just need to be told to leave .
Had someone drawn on me they would most likely would not have a good morning.

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Thanis

Finger was not on trigger.

I aimed at the direction of the noise / shadow. Was not there when I aimed flashlight. I did hear movement in the distance but the pines are so thick could not see that far.

I found it interesting that I was able to draw and aim the firearm with the right hand faster then I could draw, turn on, and aim the flashlight with my left (flashlight was clipped on sling with a on/off button/switch on the back).

Thanks to those defending, but I'm happy I posted, as I think I made a mistake, and even if the feedback might be considered harsh, it is fair, and good to have. Much rather get tough talk on an internet forum then in RL with a LEO asking questions.

I more careful with a rifle in the same way (would not aim at a shadow just because I heard something). I always feel somehow under prepared for a SD (2 or 4 legged) situation when hunting, and have not thought through the variables. It is great to be able to post and get thoughts.

I'll keep this thread for thoughts on while hunting and there is a shadow.

Here is a new thread for the Home SD option.

http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ml#post1218083

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hogdaddy

In FL it is considered SHINING with over a 6 volt light I know not mutch help sorry:-l

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Thanis

I have a feeling if it was a game warden, it would have been "shining." For several reasons I made a mistake, and in a way, it comes down to a different / higher standard when hunting.

Please don't make to much fun of me, but I've been attacked by a deer (was not wearing anything like a scent, just walking the woods, and I was actually stalked / challenged twice by the same deer in a 5 minute period). So I'm thinking SD even in the woods.

It is not that often you are walking around the woods at 3:30 AM with no light. I did not think about it in advance, in hindsight, light up, hand on pistol. Maybe still an argument about shining, but one I think could be more easily defended.

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HG said it all to the degree that nothing more can be said.

- Janq, Instructor - Basic Hunter Education & Firearm Safety

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