What books have your read/recommend? - Page 2

Barry in IN · July 2nd, 2006, 06:38 PM

OK, since it came up...
I often see "Starship Troopers" in these sort of lists. I've never read it, so I have to ask- How does it relate?
Not trying to be smart, because I'm sure it does relate, or I wouldn't see it listed so often.

ExSoldier · July 2nd, 2006, 08:05 PM

Surgical Speed Shooting by Andy Stafford in addition to all these others that I've also read and won't restate.

StarShip Troopers gives you the proper perspective and philosophy of self defense and patriotism. It ought to be mandatory reading in the public schools. Also by Heinlein I would recommend Glory Road and The Notebooks of Lazarus Long for exactly the same reasons. Pearls of wisdom here. Pearls of Wisdom.

randytulsa2 · July 2nd, 2006, 09:20 PM

I like Grossman's book "On Killing". Didn't care much for one of his subsequent efforts, "On Combat". I've read and liked a few of Ayoob's books, too.

I've heard a lot about Jeff Cooper's works, and I'll get a coupld of them pretty soon.

ExSoldier · July 2nd, 2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by randytulsa2

I've heard a lot about Jeff Cooper's works, and I'll get a coupld of them pretty soon.

You can get a LOT of his stuff online, free. Cooper's Commentaries I guess you can hunt up a link. But I did love his book To Ride, Shoot Straight & Speak the Truth and I truly loved his book of quotations called The Gargantuan Gunsite Gossip.

ExSoldier · July 2nd, 2006, 09:28 PM

More fiction. These books shaped my personality when I was growing up, so much so that I used to highlight and underline some of his philosophy: The Matt Helm spy series. Not those STUPID movies with Dean Martin! But the original series by Donald Hamilton was awesome in this respect.

TheHun · July 3rd, 2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ExSoldier

Surgical Speed Shooting by Andy Stafford in addition to all these others that I've also read and won't restate.

Mr. Stanford is a (put your word here)...

The type of "I knew that before others" guy.

Some of his "finest" :
"full surprise tactical exercise" come on Dude surprise exercise on your own

His Weaver always looked like an isosceles

"The Bill Drill is good for developing your ability to see more quickly."
You don't know what is seeing quickly until you read BE's book.

When I feel I need to laugh I pick up his book and...

It's a NO-NO if you are about to spend money.

kikr · July 3rd, 2006, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ExSoldier

StarShip Troopers gives you the proper perspective and philosophy of self defense and patriotism. It ought to be mandatory reading in the public schools. Also by Heinlein I would recommend Glory Road and The Notebooks of Lazarus Long for exactly the same reasons. Pearls of wisdom here. Pearls of Wisdom.

well stated

ExSoldier · July 3rd, 2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHun

Mr. Stanford is a (put your word here)...

The type of "I knew that before others" guy.

Some of his "finest" :
"full surprise tactical exercise" come on Dude surprise exercise on your own

His Weaver always looked like an isosceles

"The Bill Drill is good for developing your ability to see more quickly."
You don't know what is seeing quickly until you read BE's book.

When I feel I need to laugh I pick up his book and...

It's a NO-NO if you are about to spend money.

TheHun: You are free of course to disagree with anything here but being a newb you might consider that lots and lots of

THESE might be considered antagonistic...not that I'm

I just want to keep things civil around here. But I don't want to be oversensitive, either.

I'm aware that Andy Stafford has his critics. I met him last weekend at the State (FL) IDPA match. Nice guy, I thought. But that book Surgical Speed Shooting taught me a lot when it comes to TACTICAL RELOADS with RETENTION...an area where I had been having problems insofar as the IDPA game is concerned.

I use IDPA as one way to measure my game on the street. I don't really like the idea of dropping mags in a street confrontation so I practice retention and a fast reload as much as I can. Other than that, I'm much more concerned with "procedural dings" than I am with overall score. A procedural means I made a tactical error and that's not good. I got thru the entire eight stage state match without a single procedural.

Okay, so YOU didn't get much from Stafford. But why don't you let others decide for themselves if it's junk or not? There is not a single book on this list I disagree with. But even if I did, I wouldn't put it down like you did. FWIW.

David Blinder · July 3rd, 2006, 03:47 PM

Attached is a list of book and movie suggestions I provide to students. Hope someone finds it useful.

David III · July 3rd, 2006, 03:54 PM

Mr Blinder -- thanks!
I now have an Amazon shopping list
Dave

July 2nd, 2006, 08:05 PM	#12
ExSoldier VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Coral Gables, FL Posts: 4,207	Surgical Speed Shooting by Andy Stafford in addition to all these others that I've also read and won't restate. StarShip Troopers gives you the proper perspective and philosophy of self defense and patriotism. It ought to be mandatory reading in the public schools. Also by Heinlein I would recommend Glory Road and The Notebooks of Lazarus Long for exactly the same reasons. Pearls of wisdom here. Pearls of Wisdom. __________________ Former Infantry Captain; 20 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.

July 2nd, 2006, 09:28 PM	#15
ExSoldier VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Coral Gables, FL Posts: 4,207	More fiction. These books shaped my personality when I was growing up, so much so that I used to highlight and underline some of his philosophy: The Matt Helm spy series. Not those STUPID movies with Dean Martin! But the original series by Donald Hamilton was awesome in this respect. __________________ Former Infantry Captain; 20 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.

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July 2nd, 2006, 06:38 PM	#11
Barry in IN Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 79	OK, since it came up... I often see "Starship Troopers" in these sort of lists. I've never read it, so I have to ask- How does it relate? Not trying to be smart, because I'm sure it does relate, or I wouldn't see it listed so often.

July 2nd, 2006, 09:20 PM	#13
randytulsa2 Distinguished Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,442	I like Grossman's book "On Killing". Didn't care much for one of his subsequent efforts, "On Combat". I've read and liked a few of Ayoob's books, too. I've heard a lot about Jeff Cooper's works, and I'll get a coupld of them pretty soon.

July 3rd, 2006, 03:54 PM	#20
David III Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sturgeon, MO Posts: 744	Mr Blinder -- thanks! I now have an Amazon shopping list Dave