Has anyone seen Kelly McCann's "In the Crucible" series? - Page 2

ShackleMeNot · January 22nd, 2007, 01:14 PM

South Narc's Fighting Handgun DVD is very good. BUT, most of the content might fly over the head of a beginner. It's mostly ECQC technique that is built up from a formal draw stroke by the numbers and a pectoral index position for moving and shooting.

If you are looking for a great primer on ECQC shooting I don't think you could do better than South Narc's. McCann's CQ shooting DVD is different but still good.

TwoRavens · January 22nd, 2007, 01:18 PM

Do you want just gun stuff or the whole spectrum?

Gary Brommeland · January 22nd, 2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ShackleMeNot

South Narc's Fighting Handgun DVD is very good. BUT, most of the content might fly over the head of a beginner.
If you are looking for a great primer on ECQC shooting I don't think you could do better than South Narc's. McCann's CQ shooting DVD is different but still good.

I am looking for some intro level stuff for new students, but at this stage of the game my primary interest is in polishing my existing skills a bit and then further advancing them. Thanks.

Gary Brommeland · January 22nd, 2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TwoRavens

Do you want just gun stuff or the whole spectrum?

The whole spectrum from a mindset/situational awareness/avoidence standpoint is vitally important. However, I spent about 4 years studying a martial art and have come to the conclusion that while it's better than nothing, I am not really willing to risk serious/permanent injury by going toe to toe with an attacker.
If I am allowed an avenue of escape, I'll certainly take it (gladly!) but otherwise, if lethal force is the unavoidable last resort, then that's what I will employ. So, yeah, mostly gun stuff. (I'm getting too old to fight, and have too many injuries already. I'm at the stage in life where I no longer feel as though I have something to prove.) Thank you.

DOGOFWAR01 · February 3rd, 2007, 03:03 PM

South Narc's - ECQC shooting / knife dvd's are good to go - outstanding !

McCann's - CQC 5 dvd series and all other dvd's are good to go -
outstanding !

Awerbuck - Combat Shotgun dvd is good to go - outstanding !

for personal protection, concealed, tactical, or combat -- or whatever other names used ... the 3 Names above are the best with dvd's on the market. There are a few more instructors, I know which rank right up there with these 3, but they do not make dvd's or write books. If going to buy dvd's the above cannot be beat.

QKShooter · February 3rd, 2007, 05:47 PM

I'm still waiting for my set to arrive.

Gary Brommeland · February 3rd, 2007, 11:29 PM

Thanks for the intel!

JackJ · February 4th, 2007, 05:51 PM

Gary

I just trained with Southnarc about three weeks ago. He was at a seminar with about 8 other trainers in Memphis. He is very good with the firearm and the knife. His background is law enforcement and was heavily involved in drug interdiction. The session he taught was pre-attack indicators and a default position as an automatic response to a close quarters attack. From this position, a response is generated that moves into counter attack by H2H/blade/firearm or flight, depending on the situation. His DVD "Fighting Handgun Volume 1" is the basis for combat handguns in the 0 to 8 foot distance.

Another DVD that I have coming to me is by Gabe Saurez and Marc Denny, "Die Less Often". This DVD combines Gabe's Close Range Gun fighting with Marc Denny’s H2H and Stick Work into a series of lesson on being a complete fighter rather than a gun fighter. The people I know that have reviewed this DVD have had nothing but high praise for it. I have had classes with both and they are no-nonsense instructors that do not believe in sacred cows.

If you decide to go to some additional training I high recommend any of these three instructors.

downrange · February 6th, 2007, 12:46 AM

i just sat back and enjoyed the information flow. awesome really. i just wanted to add (hoping I'm not pushing the 'off topic' issue), having a lot of martial arts experience, - realistically, almost all fights end up on the ground -. grappling is where it really can decide the outcome. Gracie was the first to show boat it, but others quickly learned to sharpen their skills right there. my instructor had his, what i like to call the "flavor of the month" attitude when it came to styles. whether it was karate, kickboxing, savate, and/or even Filipino stick fighting, grappling was always a serious focus. i loved (and still do) the stick fighting the best though.

Gary Brommeland · April 2nd, 2007, 08:40 PM

Hi Guys!

QKShooter was kind enought to loan me his set of the "In the Crucible" series. Thanks, QK!

These were by far the best training DVD's I've personally seen. (admittedly, I've seen less than a dozen others - so my basis for comparison is somewhat limited) This guy has a low key, down to earth "this is what works" approach that I find refreshing after training with a few folks who, shall we say, exhibit a bit too much testosterone? The focus wasn't at all about him - it was simply "this is what you need to learn, here is how you do it".

January 22nd, 2007, 01:14 PM	#11
ShackleMeNot Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Indy Posts: 117	South Narc's Fighting Handgun DVD is very good. BUT, most of the content might fly over the head of a beginner. It's mostly ECQC technique that is built up from a formal draw stroke by the numbers and a pectoral index position for moving and shooting. If you are looking for a great primer on ECQC shooting I don't think you could do better than South Narc's. McCann's CQ shooting DVD is different but still good. __________________ Shay Van Vlymen - Instructor Tactical Response

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downrange Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: levittown PA Posts: 568	i just sat back and enjoyed the information flow. awesome really. i just wanted to add (hoping I'm not pushing the 'off topic' issue), having a lot of martial arts experience, - realistically, almost all fights end up on the ground -. grappling is where it really can decide the outcome. Gracie was the first to show boat it, but others quickly learned to sharpen their skills right there. my instructor had his, what i like to call the "flavor of the month" attitude when it came to styles. whether it was karate, kickboxing, savate, and/or even Filipino stick fighting, grappling was always a serious focus. i loved (and still do) the stick fighting the best though. __________________ What's this button do?

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February 3rd, 2007, 03:03 PM	#15
DOGOFWAR01 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: WYOMING Posts: 368	South Narc's - ECQC shooting / knife dvd's are good to go - outstanding ! McCann's - CQC 5 dvd series and all other dvd's are good to go - outstanding ! Awerbuck - Combat Shotgun dvd is good to go - outstanding ! for personal protection, concealed, tactical, or combat -- or whatever other names used ... the 3 Names above are the best with dvd's on the market. There are a few more instructors, I know which rank right up there with these 3, but they do not make dvd's or write books. If going to buy dvd's the above cannot be beat.

February 3rd, 2007, 11:29 PM	#17
Gary Brommeland Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,426	Thanks for the intel!

February 4th, 2007, 05:51 PM	#18
JackJ Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dayton Ohio Posts: 59	Gary I just trained with Southnarc about three weeks ago. He was at a seminar with about 8 other trainers in Memphis. He is very good with the firearm and the knife. His background is law enforcement and was heavily involved in drug interdiction. The session he taught was pre-attack indicators and a default position as an automatic response to a close quarters attack. From this position, a response is generated that moves into counter attack by H2H/blade/firearm or flight, depending on the situation. His DVD "Fighting Handgun Volume 1" is the basis for combat handguns in the 0 to 8 foot distance. Another DVD that I have coming to me is by Gabe Saurez and Marc Denny, "Die Less Often". This DVD combines Gabe's Close Range Gun fighting with Marc Denny’s H2H and Stick Work into a series of lesson on being a complete fighter rather than a gun fighter. The people I know that have reviewed this DVD have had nothing but high praise for it. I have had classes with both and they are no-nonsense instructors that do not believe in sacred cows. If you decide to go to some additional training I high recommend any of these three instructors.

April 2nd, 2007, 08:40 PM	#20
Gary Brommeland Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,426	Hi Guys! QKShooter was kind enought to loan me his set of the "In the Crucible" series. Thanks, QK! These were by far the best training DVD's I've personally seen. (admittedly, I've seen less than a dozen others - so my basis for comparison is somewhat limited) This guy has a low key, down to earth "this is what works" approach that I find refreshing after training with a few folks who, shall we say, exhibit a bit too much testosterone? The focus wasn't at all about him - it was simply "this is what you need to learn, here is how you do it".