BlueLion

P95 Slabsides is my friend and I love it dearly. However, when I picked up my model 37 it became a sometimes carry because it some what prevents me from moving freely. I worry about printing or even the weapon being seen. But, my model 37 can go any where and I am not worried about either. Yes, so much is trade off in regards to caliber, round size and shot placement. I am awesome with ol' slabside and ok with the 38.

I don't know I figure if I have more than two and they don't run when those hot speer gold dots start exiting the buidling then I am in combat and in that case let me push the pause button and get the 1911 with a resume that is more qualified than the former Fema Director. Why because being former military I have extensive expierence with the pistol and I am fully aware of what it will do when placed in all types of environments. However, currently my fobus and garrison belt do fine in supporting the 1911, but all things may change when I invest in a good belt and a better holster. For, now pass me "little moochie" I need to head to Walmart for some milk.

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P95Carry

Thx for all the input and in particular to Steve - wow that was both unexpected and, extremely detailed and interesting. I thank you Sir for your trouble.

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"To own a gun and assume that you are armed
is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!."

If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

tanksoldier

I consider 6+6 rounds of .357, +6 more rounds of .22 mag in the BUG enough to get me out of trouble. I'm not a cop and I'm not conducting military operations, I just have to get myself and my wife out of the killzone.

Now, in a survival situation I'll have more plus the shotgun and hopefully the carbine I plan to buy soon... but even there I'm not conducting offensive operations, the purpose of the weapons is to eliminate threats to me and mine, preferably from cover, not go out looking for trouble.

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gunthorp

Ditto the thanks for the considered thoughts and nice photos. Especially the observation about gun counter gurus recommending to the newg (for gal) a lightweight .38 Spec and +P's.

I find the std weight 4" .45 easier to control. After debriefing the gals in class about the .45 myths, they all find the officer's (micro, ultra) single stack the most comfortable. Their smiles say it all as they learn to lock their wrists working up to hardball. (make sure they wear a hat and high necked shirt to deflect hot brass) They all seem to hit better with the 45 than the snubbie, it's easier to carry, almost as light in the alloy version, and the 3" with Federal 165gr HS is downright fun (the 3" tube cuts down velocity and thus recoil, also.)

If home defense is called for, and the gun will not occupy a role in their life style, maybe a good, heavy GP100 4", loaded with .38's, in a "finger touch" bedroom safe, would be appropriate.

My deep cover P3-AT BUG requires a lot of practice, and can be uncomfortable to shoot. I think FMJ, to get as much penetration, may be better than HP. I also await the arrival of Cor-Bon DPX, as I know what it does in .45.

If shot placement is so important, and it is, I still prefer the 45 8+1 with one or more 8's at 8 o'clock.

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uudl

Choices, choices, choices, for summertime I feel very comfortable with my Khar MK9 6+1 for CC because it is so easy to conceal. In the winter I usually go with something with a little more firepower. In a survival situation I will go with the 223.

Stephen A. Camp

Hello and thanks very much. I'm glad the post was of interest.

Best to all.

HotGuns

Shot placement is SO much more important than caliber.

That is a fact.

However...

In a shootout where you and the badguy are both moving and trying to KILL each other, shot placement is the first thing that goes out the window.

In a combat situation, the ability to accurately "place" shots is very difficult to do. Sure...anyone can shoot the center out of a B29 silhouetter and think that they are good to go, but the reality of is that when someone is shooting at you "shot placement" is way down the list of things to do.

Tangle

Ahh shoot! I wanted to say that!

The more I train at schools, probably going to Blackwater next summer instead of Gunsite, the more I'm convinced that what will get me through the fight is what I've got in the gun. Oh yeah, I practice speed reloads, but from everything I can discover, it is highly unlikely that I'll need or have opportunity to reload in a gunfight.

I think there is however, a law comes into all this: "The fewer bullets in your gun the more likely you are to run out in a gunfight." That's perhaps trivial, but one of my laws of self-defense.

An unsubstantiated hypothesis: "If you run out of ammo before the gunfight is over, the caliber of the bullets you ran out of probably won't much matter."

rocky

Why my PT 140 for siummer carry. 10+1 seems to be enough, if ya hit what yer shooting.

ka0azs

BHP for me (yeah I know, surprise, surprise) with 15 Rd mags.(1 in weapon and one on belt). Second mag more as backup in case primary mag malfunctions than for the additional rounds.

For the fast throw something on low risk situtations when I just want a gun, my J-Frame with 2 reloads. 2 reloads as that's what fits comfortably in the pager belt pouch I use.

Main reason I don't carry it more is that I don't like shooting it as much as the BHP, therefore I'm not as good with it as the Browning, and I have yet to find a good CCW holster that works well for me. (Using a Fobus paddle for now, works OK, but I prefer IWB, which is a little harder for a wheelgun than an auto)

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