Condition code for a 1911?

jayoh · March 9th, 2008, 03:25 PM

Im assuming this is military terminology, but what are these conditions I hear people refer to when discussing whether or not the gun is loaded, chambered, or the safety is on.
I think I gather that condition 1 is cocked and locked, and condition 0 is cocked and unlocked. Thats all Ive figured out so far, and those might not even be right.

Captain Crunch · March 9th, 2008, 03:33 PM

Here ya go:

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Condition 0 - A round is in the chamber, hammer is cocked, and the safety is off.

Condition 1 - Also known as "cocked and locked," means a round is in the chamber, the hammer is cocked, and the manual thumb safety on the side of the frame is applied.

Condition 2 - A round is in the chamber and the hammer is down.

Condition 3 - The chamber is empty and hammer is down with a charged magazine in the gun.

Condition 4 - The chamber is empty, hammer is down and no magazine is in the gun.

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Cthulhu · March 9th, 2008, 07:34 PM

As an addendum, in general, Condition One is preferred for 1911 carry. Condition Two is an accident waiting to happen. Some people carry in Condition Three, but not many, and that forces them to become familiar with the 'Israeli draw'.

-JT

eagle5 · March 9th, 2008, 07:45 PM

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Condition 2 - A round is in the chamber and the hammer is down.

Just how about does one safely go about putting a 1911 in Condition 2? Pull the trigger with your thumb on the hammer? I just cannot see how this Condition would be safe or practical.

nn · March 9th, 2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by eagle5

Just how about does one safely go about putting a 1911 in Condition 2? Pull the trigger with your thumb on the hammer? I just cannot see how this Condition would be safe or practical.

Always do it outside.

Cthulhu · March 9th, 2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eagle5

Just how about does one safely go about putting a 1911 in Condition 2? Pull the trigger with your thumb on the hammer? I just cannot see how this Condition would be safe or practical.

Very, VERY carefully.

-JT

Captain Crunch · March 10th, 2008, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

Very, VERY carefully.

-JT

Or not at all.

There's no valid reason to carry or store a 1911 in condition 2.

SonofASniper · March 10th, 2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by eagle5

Just how about does one safely go about putting a 1911 in Condition 2? Pull the trigger with your thumb on the hammer? I just cannot see how this Condition would be safe or practical.

Don't forget to wear ear protection.

Captain Crunch is right, there is no reason to carry one in condition 2.

Scot Van · March 10th, 2008, 12:11 PM

Good question, great responses. A follow-up, then...

While I LOVE the two 1911's I have, I'm very uncomfortable carrying in condition one. Is this silly? Should I lump it and simply get used to it?

Something about DA triggers make me feel more comfortable as relates to regular CC.

goldshellback · March 10th, 2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Scot Van

Good question, great responses. A follow-up, then...

While I LOVE the two 1911's I have, I'm very uncomfortable carrying in condition one. Is this silly? Should I lump it and simply get used to it?

Something about DA triggers make me feel more comfortable as relates to regular CC.

I had this fear many, many moons ago when I first started carrying.....my first EDC was a Springer 1911. I got over it by carrying "cocked n locked" with no round chambered for a few days.
Once I realized the safty was not slipping to "fire" and waiting to go off, I started carrying condition one and have never had an issue, weather on duty or off.

March 9th, 2008, 03:25 PM	#1
jayoh Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 32	Condition code for a 1911? Im assuming this is military terminology, but what are these conditions I hear people refer to when discussing whether or not the gun is loaded, chambered, or the safety is on. I think I gather that condition 1 is cocked and locked, and condition 0 is cocked and unlocked. Thats all Ive figured out so far, and those might not even be right.

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Scot Van Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Versailles, KY Posts: 706	Good question, great responses. A follow-up, then... While I LOVE the two 1911's I have, I'm very uncomfortable carrying in condition one. Is this silly? Should I lump it and simply get used to it? Something about DA triggers make me feel more comfortable as relates to regular CC. __________________ Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburger. A. Hoffman

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March 9th, 2008, 07:34 PM	#3
Cthulhu Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Brevard County, FL Posts: 921	As an addendum, in general, Condition One is preferred for 1911 carry. Condition Two is an accident waiting to happen. Some people carry in Condition Three, but not many, and that forces them to become familiar with the 'Israeli draw'. -JT