M&P Stainless

Juggernaut · March 15th, 2008, 08:33 PM

[Borat]M&P is NOT "stainless"[/Borat] stainless. I was all fired up to come and relate how awesome was my MTAC for my M&P 45, I wore it with a button-down Ralph Lauren shirt tucked over it for an entire round of golf and to eat with no one the wiser. I got home and pulled out my pistol after having worn it with great comfort and satisfaction the last almost 12 hours and see something disgusting.

With flash:

After I cleaned it off:

The holster in question:

Inside:

It looks like the finish just leached off the slide and take-down lever into the leather! *(NOTE: DISCOLORATIONS ON back OF HOLSTER WERE ALREADY PRESENT) S&W is going to be hearing about this, this is totally unacceptable. I only bought this pistol for it supposed durability in extreme conditions, it couldn't even stand one warm day on the golf course!

Please reply to this thread only if you have had similar experiences from your M&P and please post pictures if you have them. I'm very sorry this happened becuase I took it to the range last week and was very pleased with it.
I did this at 10 yards, the second at 25. I only have two other pistols I could even keep on the paper at 25 yards.

I really don't want to have to send it back and have them mess with how it goes together, either by refinishing or replacing the slide.

halfcrazy · March 15th, 2008, 09:22 PM

ok i now you dont want my response as both my M&P's are fine even after 8 hours of hard sweating framing houses but smith had a bad batch of slides get out and if you call them they will replace it no problem i know they have taken care of everyone so far

ZW17 · March 15th, 2008, 09:34 PM

This was mine right out of the box. I have copy and pasted my response from another forum I am a member at.

The M&P's are NOT stainless, they are full of iron, the best way to tell is to put a magnet to the slide. Real stainless will not attract a magnet.

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Damn! I just bought my 1st Smith and Wesson M&P tonight and I am very disappointed to say the least.

It's a 9mm compact. Picked it up from the gun shop for $449 with the $50 rebate. I was in a hurry because I was technically at work and had a coworker waiting for me so I didn't look the pistol over like I should have.

Anyways... I just got home from work and broke it all down and was inspecting it when I noticed some major pitting at the end of the slide both inside and out. I don't know how this got past QA but it did and I got it.

Juggernaut · March 15th, 2008, 09:55 PM

ZW17, I saw that thread last night, that's why I posted this horror show. Something that was sitting around in a ware house for who-knows-how long and one caried for a day shouldn't be having these problems with an ostensibly stainless slide. I have a PX4 I polished some of the flats on the side and it still isn't rusted. Beretta either phosphatizes or parkerize (or both, I can't recall exactly at the moment) the pistols and apply the Bruniton epoxy over it.

ZW17 · March 15th, 2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Juggernaut

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I agree. It's pretty bad that it had rusted that fast. I have also heard that they had a bad run of the slides. My advice would be to contact Smith and let them know what happened. I will say that S&W has a great customer service department and will bend over backwards to keep you happy.

Keep us posted on your progress.

Juggernaut · March 15th, 2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ZW17

I agree. It's pretty bad that it had rusted that fast. I have also heard that they had a bad run of the slides. My advice would be to contact Smith and let them know what happened. I will say that S&W has a great customer service department and will bend over backwards to keep you happy.

Keep us posted on your progress.

No doubt about it, I'll be calling during normal business hours when I have some more fire in my belly, it's been a long day.

retsupt99 · March 16th, 2008, 12:15 AM

Greetings Jug...

Man, that really sucks...
I hope that they make it MORE than right...
Be a REAL squeaky wheel...

ret/Ken

BigEFan · March 16th, 2008, 02:09 AM

Good luck, I hope S&W makes it right.

Keep us posted!

QKShooter · March 16th, 2008, 03:13 AM

I'm absolutely S&W will make it right. That is a decently odd occurrence for Stainless. Obviously they messed up on the final pacification step.
That just should not ever happen to that degree.
Anyone with a Stainless slide showing pitting like that is due a brand new factory fit slide.
I personally would not settle for anything less than a properly replaced slide.

Metro 40 · March 16th, 2008, 04:57 AM

They should change the name of this pistol to the 50/50. Seems like that's about the odds for getting a good one or a bad one.

I've had bad experiences with 2 M&P 40 compacts that I bought. No rust, because they were never reliable enough for me to actually put into a holster and carry.

It's quite apparent to me that S&W doesn't have a clue what quality control is.

March 15th, 2008, 08:33 PM	#1
Juggernaut Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 471	M&P Stainless [Borat]M&P is NOT "stainless"[/Borat] stainless. I was all fired up to come and relate how awesome was my MTAC for my M&P 45, I wore it with a button-down Ralph Lauren shirt tucked over it for an entire round of golf and to eat with no one the wiser. I got home and pulled out my pistol after having worn it with great comfort and satisfaction the last almost 12 hours and see something disgusting. With flash: After I cleaned it off: The holster in question: Inside: It looks like the finish just leached off the slide and take-down lever into the leather! (NOTE: DISCOLORATIONS ON back OF HOLSTER WERE ALREADY PRESENT) S&W is going to be hearing about this, this is totally unacceptable. I only bought this pistol for it supposed durability in extreme conditions, it couldn't even stand one warm day on the golf course! Please reply to this thread only if you have had similar experiences from your M&P and please post pictures if you have them.* I'm very sorry this happened becuase I took it to the range last week and was very pleased with it. I did this at 10 yards, the second at 25. I only have two other pistols I could even keep on the paper at 25 yards. I really don't want to have to send it back and have them mess with how it goes together, either by refinishing or replacing the slide. __________________ Vis consili expers mole ruit sua. -Horace

March 15th, 2008, 09:55 PM	#4
Juggernaut Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 471	ZW17, I saw that thread last night, that's why I posted this horror show. Something that was sitting around in a ware house for who-knows-how long and one caried for a day shouldn't be having these problems with an ostensibly stainless slide. I have a PX4 I polished some of the flats on the side and it still isn't rusted. Beretta either phosphatizes or parkerize (or both, I can't recall exactly at the moment) the pistols and apply the Bruniton epoxy over it. __________________ Vis consili expers mole ruit sua. -Horace

March 16th, 2008, 12:15 AM	#7
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 13,277	Greetings Jug... Man, that really sucks... I hope that they make it MORE than right... Be a REAL squeaky wheel... ret/Ken __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** McCain/Palin 2008 NRA Life Member

March 16th, 2008, 02:09 AM	#8
BigEFan VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central California Posts: 2,028	Good luck, I hope S&W makes it right. Keep us posted! __________________ *Lex et Libertas — Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus, et Fidelis!* "Not only do the people who put their lives on the line to protect the rest of us deserve better, we all deserve better than to have our own security undermined by those who undermine law enforcement." -Thomas Sowell

March 16th, 2008, 03:13 AM	#9
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Runthegun, USA Posts: 19,184	I'm absolutely S&W will make it right. That is a decently odd occurrence for Stainless. Obviously they messed up on the final pacification step. That just should not ever happen to that degree. Anyone with a Stainless slide showing pitting like that is due a brand new factory fit slide. I personally would not settle for anything less than a properly replaced slide. __________________ The lion does not turn around when a small dog barks.

March 15th, 2008, 09:22 PM	#2
halfcrazy Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: maine Posts: 92	ok i now you dont want my response as both my M&P's are fine even after 8 hours of hard sweating framing houses but smith had a bad batch of slides get out and if you call them they will replace it no problem i know they have taken care of everyone so far

March 16th, 2008, 04:57 AM	#10
Metro 40 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 384	They should change the name of this pistol to the 50/50. Seems like that's about the odds for getting a good one or a bad one. I've had bad experiences with 2 M&P 40 compacts that I bought. No rust, because they were never reliable enough for me to actually put into a holster and carry. It's quite apparent to me that S&W doesn't have a clue what quality control is. __________________ "Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything." Wyatt Earp

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