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If memory serves me, the Beretta is the flip-up barrel type??? If it is, whatcha go'a do when it misfires---no ejector. I qualified for ccw with a 22lr. thought it was what I wanted to carry. Many better options out there. If you have to present your weapon it's already a bad day, so why not stack the deck as much as you can.
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Well, if you are going carry a .22LR for self-defense then switch to an Eley competition Match Grade ammo so that you'll at least know that your firearm will go Bang every time you pull the trigger.
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Ah...I read some comments about the effectiveness of .22LR in the hands of SEALS and hitmen.
We're talking self-defense here, not trained commando operations or Mafia planned ambushes... ![]() Defending one's self and/or loved ones means stopping the threat, not wounding the BG such that he kills and then bleeds out from a .22LR wound. Yes, it's all about shot placement, but why do you think LEOs and military folks aren't toting some dinky rimfire pistol--because hit ratios plummet when you're under attack!
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Well if I had to carry a 22 it would be loaded with either AquillaSSS sniper ammo with a 60 grain bullet or if you can find it thier hyper velocity stuff which if memory serves me is like 1750 fps.
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All the stories of "MR X" got shot with a .22 and lived are all but irrelevant. I've run on numerous guy that have been shot with all sorts of calibers and not one caliber is always gonna incapacitate. I thought we knew that? So many other factor: .22 short? round nose? hollow point? hypervelocity? Was the barrel 2"? 5"? It all makes a huge difference as well as shot placement, of course.
I recall several stories of a single shot .22 stops. -FBI shootout (I think in FL?), BG sniped good guy. -.22 passes through both femoral arteries, guy bleeds out in moments. -entry through side of thorax, don't recall what specific damage was done. To take a single incident or 2, one might conclude that the .22 must the be ultimate manstopper. not scientific.
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Better then nothing,maybe. You may just provoke them to use deadly force! There is just no stopping power.
I'm throwing more lead then that, why? (because I can)
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I once heard the .22LR called the "kill ya later" round. It'll kill you, eventually.
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There is good info available on the Banditos, Crips, Bloods and Latin Kings, among others. When discussing hits, these are the modern players, not a bunch of transplanted hi-Talians. ![]() To the OP: if you are planning to stop an assault, a .22 won't do it. If you can pin someone down, 10-15 rounds of .22 LR will certainly do it, but you may have difficulty explaining that particular "defensive" scenario. Defensive tools require evaluation of statistics- what is most effective, most of the time? Are you just wanting a "get off me" tool, or a fight stopper? Know the limitations of yourself and your gear. Like a couple of other posters, I've seen more than 1 or 2 people shot... |
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