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Old May 3rd, 2008, 05:10 PM   #11
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As with any additional feature (i.e. safety) on a firearm there are potential pros & cons. Some already mentioned. Personally, I don't find they give me a "warm feeling". The only guns I own w/ grip safeties are 1911's. I wouldn't be adverse to buying a polymer gun such as XD with a grip safety. Though, if I'd had a choice, I would elect to go without.
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 05:41 PM   #12
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While I feel that the Springfield XDs are every bit as good as the Glock pistols, I have never found the grip safety to be necessary. I believe the Springfield XD has the grip safety in order to enhance military sales as was the case with the Colt 1911 .45. I know that a famous Texas Ranger carried a pair of Colt .45s with rubber bands around the grips to deactivate the grip safeties. One day the captain had a prisoner who was riding on the back of his horse handcuffed, the bad guy had slipped his bonds and began to beat the ranger with the handcuffs. The captain drew one of his .45s and tried in vain to shoot the dirty bum from behind him. His grip on the pistol was such that the grip safety was not depressed and therefore he could not get his automatic to fire. It was only after he was nearly unconscious and fell off the horse that he was able to get a proper grip on the his Colt and shoot to save his life. From that day forward, he deactivated the safeties with rubber bands. I don't recall his name at the moment but he was the inspiration for the Chuck Norris movie "Lone Wolf McQuade". I remember reading about him in one of the gun magazines some time back. Like QKShooter said before about taking it or leaving it is how I also feel about grip safeties.
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On a XD they are a waste of time and effort IMO. But, if it gives you that warm and fuzzy feeling, more power to ya.
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 06:02 PM   #14
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Let me take the counter view.

I was all set to buy an XD because I liked the idea of a grip safety. As far as safeties go, it is a good idea. But someone brought to my attention that if you do not hold the gun just right, you cannot fire it. Not a problem in say competition or at the range, but what happens if you get into a (gun) fight, and your hand is injured? You cannot hold the gun properly to grip the safety and therefore cannot fire it to maybe save your life. But if you had, say a Glock, you could still fire a gun.

Just something to think about.

I really don't think this is an issue. If you have the gun in your hand in a position that you are able to fire it, that grip safety is pushed in. I'm sitting here with my XD trying to find a circumstance where I could have my grip on the gun securely enough to fire and have the safety not be deactivated, and I can't do it. It seems any time you have a grip on the gun, that safety us easily deactivated.
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Remember The Idiot that dropped His pistol at Dinner a couple of weeks ago. His glock went off when he tried to catch It, if he had an XD it would not have fired. Luckily no one was hurt.
I know A glock, in a shooters hand is fine, But when you start thinking that everyone needs a gun it get's scary! Most people need all the safety devices you can give them, and for some it won't be enough.
Just read some of the Range stories on here.
I'll take the XD....JMO
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 06:17 PM   #16
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Let me take the counter view.

I was all set to buy an XD because I liked the idea of a grip safety. As far as safeties go, it is a good idea. But someone brought to my attention that if you do not hold the gun just right, you cannot fire it. Not a problem in say competition or at the range, but what happens if you get into a (gun) fight, and your hand is injured? You cannot hold the gun properly to grip the safety and therefore cannot fire it to maybe save your life. But if you had, say a Glock, you could still fire a gun.

Just something to think about.
it doesn't take much at all to depress the xd's grip safety. if when you're re-holstering the weapon you put all the pressure on the sides of the handle and keep the web of your thumb off the gun, it would prevent against AD from a limb or other obstruction say if you were shooting in the woods. and XD's, at least the .40 and .45s, are not very susceptible to limp-wristing, and will fire just fine with any grip strong enough to hold the gun up.

i would also say that it is a handy additional feature that will prevent AD if you were to drop the weapon and the trigger safety failed--redundancies are always nice to have when it comes to mechanical devices.
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Personally, I don't care much for grip safeties, but I can definitely understand some people's desire (for lack of a better word) for guns that have them.

But I have no room to talk here. I carry a Sig.

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It's part of the gun, take it or leave it. Personally, I like it, especially for IWB carry. Too often you hear of officers holstering a traditional DAO or DA/SA off safe and getting a piece of their jacket or uniform in the holster with the gun. It may not mean an immediate ND, but somewhere along the line their body may shift and cause the fabric to pull the trigger. With the grip safety, the officer is far less likely to blow a hole in his hip, and I liken this to getting my cover garment (light shirt or whatnot) stuck the same way. While I would still own the gun if it were not introduced with this feature, I do feel it is a key feature to the design and overall appeal of the XD.
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Grip safeties are a very good and ingenious idea. They are stupid simple (see hard to mess up) and useful weather you see it is a peace of mind, or an actual safety feature.
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