Ruger LCP - reports of broken trigger mechanism - Warning to LCP owners!

razz · May 13th, 2008, 09:01 PM

Basically when you pull the trigger, it doesn't go bang... bad for a CCW gun.

LCP trigger not working after 37th round - AR15.COM :: Forums :: LCP Ruger broken after 37th round at the range!!!!!!

Another one not working after 177th round - New Ruger LCP

Another one not working after 240th round - RugerForum.com :: View topic - LCP broken trigger pivot

Another one quit working after 250th round -
KTOG Forum - Ruger LCP Trigger Bar Failure:

Pic by magoo from rugerforum.com

Is this part something that is eventually going to break or do you think these people had defective parts? Also, does dry firing put the same pressure on this part as live firing? I've dry fired about 2,000 times with a snap cap and it still works so far... but only fired about 400 live rounds.

If you have a Ruger LCP, I would try to fire at least 500 rounds before carrying it.

AKsrule · May 13th, 2008, 09:51 PM

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Rustynuts · May 13th, 2008, 10:04 PM

Pics look like a bad part to me. Definitely wring these little guns out well before carrying. I've had two KelTecs fail within 100-rds. One a spring, one a barrel lug.

razz · May 15th, 2008, 11:35 AM

The part that is broken on the picture is the part circled in blue on the above diagram.

QKShooter · May 15th, 2008, 12:47 PM

Looks like a MIM part to me.
Even an investment cast part would not snap off like that.
It's part of the transfer system but, it's not under That Much stress.
I'm calling it a defective Metal Injected Molded part.
Why does that not surprise me?
Oh....when will they ever learn?

There is a line that gun makers should never cross in attempting to cut production costs.
That would be the use of MIM baked slurry metal for critical gun parts.

David in FL · May 15th, 2008, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QKShooter

Looks like a MIM part to me.
Even an investment cast part would not snap off like that.
It's part of the transfer system but, it's not under That Much stress.
I'm calling it a defective Metal Injected Molded part.

Have to admit, that was my first thought too.

Just a reminder......Kahr is due out with their little .380 shortly. I know it's gonna be a little more pricey, but I can't wait to see it nonetheless. Sometimes, as this might demonstrate, you do get what you pay for.

QKShooter · May 15th, 2008, 02:08 PM

I have a call in to Ruger Technical Support.
A tech person that handles LCP is supposed to call me back.
I'm going to ask some questions.
Hopefully I won't miss the call-back 'cause I'll be in & out of the house all day today.

No call back from Ruger today. Just FYI

FN1910 · May 15th, 2008, 03:33 PM

WOW!! I did not realize that Ruger copied the P3AT down to the infamous part #115. Are any of the parts interchangable? It appears that the problems are.

joelg · May 15th, 2008, 05:17 PM

I've carried Rugers professionally since 1966. I am severely disappointed in hearing about the LCP, as it raises questions about the other weapons Ruger manufactures and that I have - soon to read "had."

I'm also quite astonished that quite a number of members are talking about breaking in a handgun by firing 300-500 rounds to make sure that they fire and that they work. The weapon could then fail at 301 or 501 rounds. A handgun to me is survival. Never had any of my weapons fail me in the past 60 years, now all of a sudden in the "modern age," you can't rely on anything to work - even people.

I've lived many many years in adverse situations with a 12 gauge and .45 auto and/or a .357 revolver. I pulled the trigger, it worked. No failures ever! Now I find out that this is history...nothing really can be relied upon - and I sold my weapons to get new, more modern ones.

I'm reconsidering going back to a wheelgun, selling what I have. Maybe I should just carry a baseball bat. If I can't trust a weapon, why would I risk carrying it? Am I the only one who's angry about what's going on with the manufacturers? Any really angry letters being sent to Ruger and to the "gun magazines" that promote weapons like this?

Maybe I'm just having a bad day and am aggravated over what used to be called "made in the U.S.," and you could take that to the bank as well-made by American craftsman and well-constructed, reliable, last you for a lifetime like the old Craftsman tools.

Anyhow, no LCP for me...and I'm going to scout around at the next gun show down here and sell what I have, get back into a wheelgun and a collapsable baseball bat as backup...but then the bat may break, even if it's a Louisville slugger <grin> I know, I'm dating myself.

TacticalCompact · May 15th, 2008, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joelg

I've carried Rugers professionally since 1966. I am severely disappointed in hearing about the LCP, as it raises questions about the other weapons Ruger manufactures and that I have - soon to read "had."

I'm also quite astonished that quite a number of members are talking about breaking in a handgun by firing 300-500 rounds to make sure that they fire and that they work. The weapon could then fail at 301 or 501 rounds. A handgun to me is survival. Never had any of my weapons fail me in the past 60 years, now all of a sudden in the "modern age," you can't rely on anything to work - even people.

I've lived many many years in adverse situations with a 12 gauge and .45 auto and/or a .357 revolver. I pulled the trigger, it worked. No failures ever! Now I find out that this is history...nothing really can be relied upon - and I sold my weapons to get new, more modern ones.

I'm reconsidering going back to a wheelgun, selling what I have. Maybe I should just carry a baseball bat. If I can't trust a weapon, why would I risk carrying it? Am I the only one who's angry about what's going on with the manufacturers? Any really angry letters being sent to Ruger and to the "gun magazines" that promote weapons like this?

Maybe I'm just having a bad day and am aggravated over what used to be called "made in the U.S.," and you could take that to the bank as well-made by American craftsman and well-constructed, reliable, last you for a lifetime like the old Craftsman tools.

Anyhow, no LCP for me...and I'm going to scout around at the next gun show down here and sell what I have, get back into a wheelgun and a collapsable baseball bat as backup...but then the bat may break, even if it's a Louisville slugger <grin> I know, I'm dating myself.

Wow. Quite the life-changing event this thread has been for you.

May 13th, 2008, 09:51 PM	#2
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May 15th, 2008, 12:47 PM	#5
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Runthegun, PA. Posts: 17,968	Looks like a MIM part to me. Even an investment cast part would not snap off like that. It's part of the transfer system but, it's not under That Much stress. I'm calling it a defective Metal Injected Molded part. Why does that not surprise me? Oh....when will they ever learn? There is a line that gun makers should never cross in attempting to cut production costs. That would be the use of MIM baked slurry metal for critical gun parts. __________________ *Support Our Troops* How Very Fortunate You Are To Have Two Arms To Put Into A Ward 57 T-Shirt. DC MEMBERS ~ PLEASE BUY A WARD 57 SHIRT. Click Here.

May 15th, 2008, 02:08 PM	#7
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Runthegun, PA. Posts: 17,968	I have a call in to Ruger Technical Support. A tech person that handles LCP is supposed to call me back. I'm going to ask some questions. Hopefully I won't miss the call-back 'cause I'll be in & out of the house all day today. No call back from Ruger today. Just FYI __________________ *Support Our Troops* How Very Fortunate You Are To Have Two Arms To Put Into A Ward 57 T-Shirt. DC MEMBERS ~ PLEASE BUY A WARD 57 SHIRT. Click Here.

May 15th, 2008, 05:17 PM	#9
joelg Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Florida Posts: 47	I've carried Rugers professionally since 1966. I am severely disappointed in hearing about the LCP, as it raises questions about the other weapons Ruger manufactures and that I have - soon to read "had." I'm also quite astonished that quite a number of members are talking about breaking in a handgun by firing 300-500 rounds to make sure that they fire and that they work. The weapon could then fail at 301 or 501 rounds. A handgun to me is survival. Never had any of my weapons fail me in the past 60 years, now all of a sudden in the "modern age," you can't rely on anything to work - even people. I've lived many many years in adverse situations with a 12 gauge and .45 auto and/or a .357 revolver. I pulled the trigger, it worked. No failures ever! Now I find out that this is history...nothing really can be relied upon - and I sold my weapons to get new, more modern ones. I'm reconsidering going back to a wheelgun, selling what I have. Maybe I should just carry a baseball bat. If I can't trust a weapon, why would I risk carrying it? Am I the only one who's angry about what's going on with the manufacturers? Any really angry letters being sent to Ruger and to the "gun magazines" that promote weapons like this? Maybe I'm just having a bad day and am aggravated over what used to be called "made in the U.S.," and you could take that to the bank as well-made by American craftsman and well-constructed, reliable, last you for a lifetime like the old Craftsman tools. Anyhow, no LCP for me...and I'm going to scout around at the next gun show down here and sell what I have, get back into a wheelgun and a collapsable baseball bat as backup...but then the bat may break, even if it's a Louisville slugger <grin> I know, I'm dating myself. __________________ Semper Vigilantia - Semper Paratus

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May 13th, 2008, 09:01 PM	#1
razz Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 82	Ruger LCP - reports of broken trigger mechanism - Warning to LCP owners! Basically when you pull the trigger, it doesn't go bang... bad for a CCW gun. LCP trigger not working after 37th round - AR15.COM :: Forums :: LCP Ruger broken after 37th round at the range!!!!!! Another one not working after 177th round - New Ruger LCP Another one not working after 240th round - RugerForum.com :: View topic - LCP broken trigger pivot Another one quit working after 250th round - KTOG Forum - Ruger LCP Trigger Bar Failure: Pic by magoo from rugerforum.com Is this part something that is eventually going to break or do you think these people had defective parts? Also, does dry firing put the same pressure on this part as live firing? I've dry fired about 2,000 times with a snap cap and it still works so far... but only fired about 400 live rounds. If you have a Ruger LCP, I would try to fire at least 500 rounds before carrying it.

May 13th, 2008, 10:04 PM	#3
Rustynuts Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 418	Pics look like a bad part to me. Definitely wring these little guns out well before carrying. I've had two KelTecs fail within 100-rds. One a spring, one a barrel lug.

May 15th, 2008, 11:35 AM	#4
razz Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 82	The part that is broken on the picture is the part circled in blue on the above diagram.

May 15th, 2008, 03:33 PM	#8
FN1910 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SC Posts: 775	WOW!! I did not realize that Ruger copied the P3AT down to the infamous part #115. Are any of the parts interchangable? It appears that the problems are.