archer51

JD, you got too much salt on the popcorn!!

jwhite75

Ah put on some more butter it'll even out. The big jumbo soda should help too.

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Cakewalk

A P22 is not that small. From a concealability standpoint, a P3AT or a Ruger LCP would serve you better. Better caliber too.

Juju Beads, anyone....?

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A Walther P-22? Uh....why?

You say that your main concern is that the gun be invisible. Why would you choose the Walther, then, when there are WAY smaller guns available, chambered in MUCH better self-defense calibers? The Walther seems a bit big to pocket carry, I would much prefer a small .380 or 9mm.

As far as a coked-out thug or meth head being scared and running like a rabbit when you pull your .22, well.....good luck with that theory. Chances are, if you are in a situation that has deteriorated to the point where you have to employ lethal force, the person who is attacking you is probably not operating with your clear-headed, bright-eyed common sense.

.22 LR is the cheapest ammo on the planet. If it were any kind of serious defensive caliber, police departments would be using it, given the serious budget crunch that most public safety agencies operate under. The fact is, I don't know of ANY police department that authorizes anything below a .380 ACP for a backup gun, and NO police department that I'm aware of issues anything less than 9mm for a service handgun. This is not blowhard BS from "self-made experts." This is real-world experience, based on real gunfights.

If you want something invisible, the Keltec P3AT or Ruger LCP are the way to go. There is no way that the Walther P-22 is easier to hide than either of these pistols. Heck, I carry my Kahr CW45 on my belt under a light cover garment every day, with no worries about printing. (So much for the ".45 in the glove box" theory of stopping power)
I can't imagine a P-22 in a pants pocket NOT printing.

IMHO, no firearm is "useless" for self-defense, as long as it works. But the P-22, due to its bulk and anemic caliber, would be WAY down the list of choices to me. I don't say this to deride or make fun of you. I say this out of concern for your safety, because I think you need to reevaluate your chosen pistol and caliber.

Pulling a pistol on someone in a life or death situation is serious business. Handguns are marginal anyway...the best we can hope for is to poke enough holes in our attacker to change his channel. Big holes cause more trauma, and trauma is the only way we can stop someone. .22's are notorious for bouncing off bone and taking wild paths throughout the human body. While this may cause quite a bit of damage, it does little to IMMEDIATELY stop somebody. Service calibers are more likely to smash bone and tear organs up, rather than making a zigzagging pinhole through someone.

I think that people who tell you "whatever works for you" are doing you a disservice. Like I said, the .22 is not entirely worthless, but it makes absolutely no sense in a pistol the size of the P-22. I'd rather encourage you to carry a more effective weapon than to blow smoke in the interest of fuzzy little feelings. Nobody ever wished for a smaller, less effective pistol in a gunfight.

And if you think that you'll never have to use a pistol, aside from scaring someone away, then you seriously need to rethink your decision to carry one in the first place. Another poster put it brilliantly...it is NOT a magic talisman. Mindset matters.

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zelenkajl

Thanks for the informative replies, I may be inclined to look at something in center fire if it carries as nicely as the P22 but I am still amazed at how nicely this gun shoots. I read lots of grumbles about it but this one has a very clean trigger pull and, as noted, perfect reliability and impressive accuracy. Years ago I had several very expensive and highly regarded center fire pistols that wouldn't empty a single clip without jamming! Hard as it must be to get a .45 to feed perfectly Walther must be doing something right with the new model P22.
With money to burn what would you all recommend in a pocketable (with paddle holster) auto?
Thanks in advance.

camsdaddy

I have carried a Keltec P32 for 2+ years. Though I often carry something larger I find this to be the perfect EDC for "me".It is small undetectable and quite accurate and reliable. I have been very happy with mine and have recommended them to others who are also pleased.

imatt

Money to burn? Seecamp .380 for itty bitty reliability.

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Metro 40

Several expensive and highly regarded centerfire pistols that jammed all the time, in the caliber of .45? I'm going to take a shot in the dark, and say that you are a former 1911 owner? Ok, I won't go there......

Don't know how big your pockets are, but you might try a Glock 26 or 27, if you like your G30. I sometimes slip a G27 in my pocket, in loose jeans. Kahr makes a jewel of a pistol, I love my CW45, but it's a bit big for the pocket.

You might try a Kahr PM9, if price is no object. The only thing I didn't like about my PM9 was, the rounds in my spare mags would work their way out when carried in a mag holder in my pocket. I'd pull out my spare 7 round mag and have 5 rounds in it. I never had a malfunction with the pistol itself, but the mag problem irritated me. No such problem with my CW45 mags.

Of course, the ultimate pocket pistols are the Ruger LCP and the Keltec P3AT, for caliber/weight/size ratio. Kahr also has a P380 coming out that rivals these 2 for size and weight, but it will cost a bit more.

If you just don't trust an auto, there are many, many people that are happy with a J frame S&W .38 or .357 as a pocket gun. Despite the width of the cylinder, they conceal well in a good pocket holster, due to the graceful curves of the revolver vs. the squared-off profile of most autos. The rounded grip also conceals well in a belt holster under a light cover garment, if you wear a light sweatshirt or jacket in the cooler months, but I'd go with a little heavier .357 for belt carry. I love my Ruger SP-101, and carry it in an ankle holster as a BUG while on duty.

Good luck!

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wagglebee

Or wait for the Kahr which is SUPPOSED to be out this summer.

Rob72

To your credit, and not to mine- I did not believe you were looking for alternatives.

An airweight J frame in .38 spl. is going to be as light as you can carry; they are also somewhat harsh to shoot, but they are "carried much, shot little."

I like my Seecamp .32- reasonably priced, and easy to carry, but getting rather on the marginal side in caliber. This gets to mindset: if you're going to empty the mag, then see if you need to beat them down with a tire iron, you're probably fine. If you think the sight of a gun will make someone run, it's probably not the best choice.

Glock 26 in 9mm is prime, if you like the grip. I'm not a Khar guy, but if you don't like Glocks, Khar might fit the bill.