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![]() Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: right behind you!
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MP 40C no probs
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Location: NC
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If I were you, I wouldn't worry too much about your situation. S&W has excellent customer service and they will make right any problems you have. For every one person posting a problem on the internet, there are 100 people who are perfectly happy with the same item, who aren't posting. People like to vent. Second guessing yourself is totally natural. When I bought my car, I drove it off the lot, and looked out my window at all the other different cars out there, and started second-guessing myself. Everyone does it. The M&P, the XD, glock, they are all alike. Grip angles are different, the XD has the grip safety, but they are all clones of each other to a certain extent. Who was around first, who is the newcomer, really doesn't matter too much. What matters is what feels the best in your hand. If you liked the M&P, then don't second guess yourself. Put it through it paces when you get it. Abuse it, use it lots, learn to handle it, S&W will fix any and all problems with it. There are thousands of M&P owners out there who have absolutely no problems with the gun. If you really regret putting the S&W on layaway, then talk to your dealer. I know my dealer here will hit you with a small restocking fee for taking an item off layaway, but they may work with you to delete the fee if you do it quickly and purchase another gun from them. If you really liked the M&P but are worried about a malfunction, well give it a chance, work it in, the newer models have been pretty reliable, and if not S&W has an awesome customer service dept. Either way, glock people are gonna say return the gun and get a glock. XD people will say return it and get an XD. S&W people are gonna say keep it, you will be happy. In the end it's up to you, but I would give it a chance.
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Location: TheShadows
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^ Jay's post above says it all ^
Love my M&P9 sent it to S&W for there action job... Great firearm!
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Location: Here and There
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The "C" models have had their issues for sure, but more importantly, you need to have a gun that you are 100% confident in. The M&P could be flawless, but if its stuck in your mind that its the lesser of guns, then that has become reality and you will never reach your full potential with the gun.
I would have chosen the G26, simply because its been around a lot longer with a long proven record. The M&P has grown on me in the last year or so, so I could understand the temptation to go with that too.
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Location: Kansas
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Not to start a war but have you considered a Springfield XD or XDm? Equal to Glocks in dependability, a better 1911 type grip and I like the 1911 grip safety. Traded my Glock in for it and have never been sorry. Nothing wrong with the Glcoks, I just like the XD better. I do plan to trade it in for an XDm soon.
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![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lexington, Ky.
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"Just looking at mp-pistol.com and reading the subjects it's easy to find all sorts of posts about problems."
That "research" was your mistake, not buying the M&P. |
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Location: Arizona
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I used to drive a Ford I drive a Dodge now, it's red and shiny...Oh...sorry..what were we talking about anyway???
Seriously, whatever feels comfortable, concealable, accessible and affordable. As long as your carrying something..your ahead of the game.
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![]() Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Chattanooga
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I fired 1800 rounds through my M&P without cleaning it - no problems and it is one of the most accurate guns I have shot.
Right now, I'm carrying a G17, not because I have more confidence in it or because it's touted to be more accurate, but the sole reason is the trigger reset. The M&P reset is mushy, the Glock reset is crisp and quite tactile. That's not to say that's enough to make the decision between a Glock and M&P, that's just me. I'd be just as confident with either and for me, seems like I shoot the M&P more accurately. BTW, I bought one with the mag disconnect. These things are always contraversial, but I have found mine to be quite an asset for temporarily storing the gun, e.g. to go into a resturant where I can't carry. I simply remove the mag, stick it in a pocket, remove the gun, and put it under the seat. If the car is broken into, the gun is inert - you'd have to buy a magazine to make it work. When I get back to the car, I stick the gun in the holster, insert the mag and it's hot again. No unloading, reloading, hot gun left in the car, etc.
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![]() Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: US
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We own 3 Glocks (17, 22 & 23) and 2 M&Ps (9c & 45).
I am "brand agnostic" . . . as long as it is a well-known brand with good support, I'll consider it. I don't bash any brand, although I may bash a particular model due to problems, and I don't "wear the flag" for any brand either. That said . . . - Two of the 3 Glocks broke and needed repair. Glock will not pay shipping to them (S&W will, if you ask them), so I opted for a friend who is a Glock armorer to do the work. All 3 Glocks run fine now. - Tried the M&P .45 at S&W's range 1.5 years ago and really, really liked the way it felt, shot and handled recoil. Bought one earlier this year. NIB trigger pull was ~11#. Shot ~750 rds thru it and tested it again and trigger pull was down to ~8#. So a "break-in" is required for M&Ps to have a decent trigger pull! Now have ~1000 rds thru it, no failures and no problems (other than the night sights crud up after ~50 rds). - Someone was selling a M&P 9c that had had a trigger job done on it. Love it!! I do have a problem with 1 magazine, but S&W will deal with that for me. Gun is great, has 4.5-5# trigger pull and is one of my all-time favorites (next to my 1911). I now have probably 600+ rds thru it. A lot of folks "report" the ability to load a mag in the M&P and have the slide load a round and slam into battery as a problem. A defensive handgun course instructor first showed us that trick with the Glock and personally I think it is great that I can also do it with my M&Ps. With a defensive handgun, I want it to be "combat ready" in the least amount of time possible, so that is an advantage and not a defect. Bullseye shooters may disagree. Nowadays the only way that our Glocks are getting any range time is my Wife's G17 with an AA .22 conversion kit upper on it. The M&P 9c is almost always on the range with me. The Glocks may be the "original", but don't discount someone taking a design and using new technological advances (changeable palm swells) to improve upon it. Not everyone has the same sized hand. A friend handed me his double-stack Para (1911 clone) last week on the range and both he and I noticed that I was having trouble getting my hand around it . . . both that Para and the G21 are too big for my hands. The G21SF is a step in the right direction by Glock, but the ability to swap out the grips on the range makes it a lot better for multiple shooters (H&W or adult and child, etc.). Try each gun and decide what works best for you. That's how to make the "right decision" . . . for you. |
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![]() Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Dark Earth
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You think its stressful choosing your FIRST carry gun--just wait until you realize that you need continual, consistant training like IDPA to use it properly and discover that you really need to switch guns again and again until you've got the right gun!
I say don't worry about it--buy the gun--but more importantly, use it at IDPA for a few months and let that be your judge. ![]() |
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