Eric Larsen and HBE Leather Problems

Bumper · June 13th, 2007, 06:22 PM

We are very aware of the problems many of you have been having with orders that you have placed with Eric at HBE Leather. While we have tried to keep all holster-related complaints out of the forum (see this thread for more information: Posting of Custom Holster "Problems") we are going to make an exception to the rules and allow it since many of you have are left in limbo after possibly losing your money. All other forum rules apply here (no flames, etc) and viloations will be removed or the thread closed down.

I want everyone to understand, however, this is the one thread that discussions of this problem will be allowed....

Pete · June 13th, 2007, 06:51 PM

Good idea Bumper but I'm not sure what good it will do if he isn't here to review the comments, he hasn't been to see us since April.

http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ber.php?u=2145

Bud White · June 13th, 2007, 06:55 PM

Also This is a Thread about HBE Leather only not XYZ promised this or that and etc etc

Any Other Post will be Deleted..

.02 i'm sure he will be back sometime and we are getting a bunch of questions and Pm's and these threads are popping up..

dr_cmg · June 13th, 2007, 07:04 PM

Because of our rules I have deliberately stayed away from posting anything about problems with HBE. But since Bumper has given us this dispensation I will add my name to a growing list.

My order was placed October 30, 2006 and my card charge cleared November 6, 2006. I was told to expect my holster in 4 months or so. March 9, 2007 I sent a PM to Eric asking about changing the order and got a reply that he would call me the next day. When he did not I called and left a message on March 12. I have gotten no response from Eric since.

I don't want to kick a man when he is down, but enough is enough. It costs nothing to send a PM or email. There are some who have managed to make contact with Eric and get promises, but unfortunately the promises have not been fulfilled.

I would like to compile a list of names, addresses, phone numbers, order dates, charges etc of all members here who have ordered holsters from Eric, but who have not receive them. I have created an email account for just at purpose. If you would email me at this address hbeproblems at bellsouth.net and provide as much info as you want I will compile a list and present it to Utah AG's Office and to any other office that we think can help.

By the way I plan to make this same offer on other boards over the next few days. I am not a member of many, but will be joining them. If you are already a member of other boards and would like to save me the effort of finding and joining them send me a PM letting me know which ones so I will know that I don't have to join a particular one.

Bumper · June 13th, 2007, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0.02

Good idea Bumper but I'm not sure what good it will do if he isn't here to review the comments, he hasn't been to see us since April.

I don't necessarily believe it will help but some of our members have been experiencing a problem getting what they ordered from HBE and I would like it contained in one place. This is simply that place.

AnimalKracker · June 13th, 2007, 10:49 PM

I'll agree that he has been hard to contact. I talked to Eric several weeks ago and at that time he informed me that was was not taking any orders until he got his back log caught up. I have several holsters, mag pouch, and a belt on order with him. He has always dealt fairly with me in the past and I do not believe he will not this time.

BruceGibson · June 13th, 2007, 10:50 PM

Well done. This is a compliment to the forum, in my opinion.

Air,Land&Sea · June 13th, 2007, 11:52 PM

Order placed and paid for in November of 2005. $90 down the tubes. I'm very wealthy, but the money part hasn't yet caught up so I'd rather have the $90 back.

clifford3355 · June 14th, 2007, 12:19 AM

This is a good idea.I person on this forum should be able to hear the good and the bad about a holster maker or member before he orders or buys an item.Knowing this might save him a lot of problems later.

Chance · June 14th, 2007, 02:38 AM

First I would like to say that the holster and belt I got from H.B.E. was and still is a fantastic piece of leather work. I am more than just pleased with the craftsmanship and quality.

But, unfortunately, due to some of the same delay and communication issues I can definitely say that I won't be ordering from H.B.E. when I need another holster.

(My thread from 2006 Negative experience with H.B.E. Leatherworks)

Also, I think 'Problem" threads like this are just as important as the "I had a GREAT experience with XYZ Inc.". Flaming and ranting are not necessary, but having this information available is very valuable.

June 13th, 2007, 06:22 PM	#1
Bumper Administrator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 14,256	Eric Larsen and HBE Leather Problems We are very aware of the problems many of you have been having with orders that you have placed with Eric at HBE Leather. While we have tried to keep all holster-related complaints out of the forum (see this thread for more information: Posting of Custom Holster "Problems") we are going to make an exception to the rules and allow it since many of you have are left in limbo after possibly losing your money. All other forum rules apply here (no flames, etc) and viloations will be removed or the thread closed down. I want everyone to understand, however, this is the one thread that discussions of this problem will be allowed.... __________________ Bumper Administrator DefensiveCarry.com Forum Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde; Beware the anger of a patient man.

June 13th, 2007, 07:04 PM	#4
dr_cmg Lead Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,624	Because of our rules I have deliberately stayed away from posting anything about problems with HBE. But since Bumper has given us this dispensation I will add my name to a growing list. My order was placed October 30, 2006 and my card charge cleared November 6, 2006. I was told to expect my holster in 4 months or so. March 9, 2007 I sent a PM to Eric asking about changing the order and got a reply that he would call me the next day. When he did not I called and left a message on March 12. I have gotten no response from Eric since. I don't want to kick a man when he is down, but enough is enough. It costs nothing to send a PM or email. There are some who have managed to make contact with Eric and get promises, but unfortunately the promises have not been fulfilled. I would like to compile a list of names, addresses, phone numbers, order dates, charges etc of all members here who have ordered holsters from Eric, but who have not receive them. I have created an email account for just at purpose. If you would email me at this address hbeproblems at bellsouth.net and provide as much info as you want I will compile a list and present it to Utah AG's Office and to any other office that we think can help. By the way I plan to make this same offer on other boards over the next few days. I am not a member of many, but will be joining them. If you are already a member of other boards and would like to save me the effort of finding and joining them send me a PM letting me know which ones so I will know that I don't have to join a particular one. __________________ George Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. Albert Einstein

June 13th, 2007, 10:50 PM	#7
BruceGibson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northwest Florida...The "Redneck Riviera" Posts: 690	Well done. This is a compliment to the forum, in my opinion. __________________ "He who is silent is deemed to consent." www.GibsonGunleather.com

June 14th, 2007, 12:19 AM	#9
clifford3355 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: N.Jackson,Ohio Posts: 21	Great Idea This is a good idea.I person on this forum should be able to hear the good and the bad about a holster maker or member before he orders or buys an item.Knowing this might save him a lot of problems later.

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June 13th, 2007, 06:51 PM	#2
Pete Ex Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,572	Good idea Bumper but I'm not sure what good it will do if he isn't here to review the comments, he hasn't been to see us since April. http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ber.php?u=2145

June 13th, 2007, 06:55 PM	#3
Bud White VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 17,476	Also This is a Thread about HBE Leather only not XYZ promised this or that and etc etc Any Other Post will be Deleted.. .02 i'm sure he will be back sometime and we are getting a bunch of questions and Pm's and these threads are popping up..

June 13th, 2007, 10:49 PM	#6
AnimalKracker Distinguished Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Eastern Arkansas Posts: 1,382	I'll agree that he has been hard to contact. I talked to Eric several weeks ago and at that time he informed me that was was not taking any orders until he got his back log caught up. I have several holsters, mag pouch, and a belt on order with him. He has always dealt fairly with me in the past and I do not believe he will not this time.

June 13th, 2007, 11:52 PM	#8
Air,Land&Sea Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: A Blue State Posts: 237	Order placed and paid for in November of 2005. $90 down the tubes. I'm very wealthy, but the money part hasn't yet caught up so I'd rather have the $90 back.

June 14th, 2007, 02:38 AM	#10
Chance Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 34	First I would like to say that the holster and belt I got from H.B.E. was and still is a fantastic piece of leather work. I am more than just pleased with the craftsmanship and quality. But, unfortunately, due to some of the same delay and communication issues I can definitely say that I won't be ordering from H.B.E. when I need another holster. (My thread from 2006 Negative experience with H.B.E. Leatherworks) Also, I think 'Problem" threads like this are just as important as the "I had a GREAT experience with XYZ Inc.". Flaming and ranting are not necessary, but having this information available is very valuable.