Open carry for attention? - Page 6

P95Carry · June 14th, 2006, 12:36 AM

It's true it seems - in some jurisdictions and regardless of the law - it can happen that a department ''decides'' that something will not wash.

I guess ''discretion is better part of valor'' can often be the way to go - regardless of any other pro's and con's on open carry!

I was in a major K-Mart today with my wife - we also were in Victoria's Secrets (hmmm - some nice gear there LOL!) - and finally a quick stop for a KFC before biking home.

I have to say - I tried to imagine in all three locations - open carrying and not being hassled by someone. Guess I am just too aware of the sheep count these days! Concealed seemed so much altogether the ''quiet'' option.

Wayne · June 14th, 2006, 01:34 AM

Red, haven't seen you around so let me say Welcome.

I have read about Mr. Marchiafava on keep and bear arms. He does come off abit rough but I agreed with his position in relation to what happend to him concerning the firearm (non)violation.

Didn't know that he was doing the other things mentioned. Not that I don't agree with his actions, he's got more huzba than I do on the matter(s), but you have to agree that he knew the consequences of his actions.

I will admit that doing what he does will get him into trouble, whether it's lawful or not (on the LEO's, etc.. part) and it would be great if others would stand together and not fall alone but that is what will always happen. No matter how many Waco's, Ruby Ridges, or Mark Marchiafava's out there, the only thing that will be accomplished is the general public watching it on the news or reading about it in the papers and then hitting the boards/blogs in keyboard kommando styes with the beginning of each entry worded as, "If I were there then...... ".

And, as we have noticed quite clearly, nothing will be done to change a thing. As the individual Waco's, Ruby Ridges, and Mark Marchiafava's happen, the People will sit back, allow it to happen, and then do as they have always done within the past couple of decades, nothing.

And those involved in the "take downs" will continue to get promoted, get tax payer funded raises, and special "job well done" BBQ's on the taxpayers dime.

Not trying to be a downer but I am a realist. As much as I would love to live in a world as visualized by our forefathers, I must leave that fantasy world each morning as I awake and look at the world as it truly is, drink my coffee, and head of to work so I can support said world with my hard earned money through the taking of taxes.

They say that it's time to "lock and load" but in today's world that is nothing more than people sitting behind their monitors typing nothing more than mere words which will never manifest. We all know that we've lost any resembalance to what was created to what it is today.

We can be grateful that we do have some outlet to show off our firearms, discuss the use of, and to have chats with people of like minds. Yet we all know deep down that nothing is going to be done by the People, that we are on borrowed time to maintain our hobby, and that when the time comes (not if) we will do the same as our Cousins over the pond and just give in and give them up.

Sure, some shots will be fired, but in such a weak attempt that it will only be on a 30 sec. segment on the nightly news as they move on to the weather forecast and what major league sports team won whatever it is they play.

The time of our forefathers has long passed and we are steam rolling into the "new age" where all will be punished, none will have a say, and the majority of the People will do as they are told.

I would love to live in a fantasy world and do as I thought was right, but most can't, or won't, so therefore their only outlook on life is to "go with the flow" and do as they are told.

Wayne

older gunner · June 14th, 2006, 03:46 AM

Open carry is not an option here in Florida, but when I lived in Georgia and went camping in the No. Ga mountains, I always carried open. It is allowed under those circumstances and I think it was a deterent against opportunistic attack in remote areas.
I'm much happier with the concealed carry option that I use now. Why advertise in a populated area?

Al Lowe · June 14th, 2006, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocky

City laws and on motorized vehicles. I also consider the element of suprise and low profile to work in my favor by cc'ing.

Don't mean to rock the boat, but Michigan's pre-emption law should stop most of the local ordinances against open carry.

As far as IN a motor vehicle, that's what your CPL is for.

If you're ON a motorized vehicle (motor cycle?) then you're weapon would not be concealed, therefore, I don't believe you'd need a CPL for packing openly on a motor cycle.

HOWEVER, having said all of the above. I would not want to "test the waters" myself, unless I had deep pockets and a really good lawyer.

June 14th, 2006, 12:36 AM	#51
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,366	It's true it seems - in some jurisdictions and regardless of the law - it can happen that a department ''decides'' that something will not wash. I guess ''discretion is better part of valor'' can often be the way to go - regardless of any other pro's and con's on open carry! I was in a major K-Mart today with my wife - we also were in Victoria's Secrets (hmmm - some nice gear there LOL!) - and finally a quick stop for a KFC before biking home. I have to say - I tried to imagine in all three locations - open carrying and not being hassled by someone. Guess I am just too aware of the sheep count these days! Concealed seemed so much altogether the ''quiet'' option. __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

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June 14th, 2006, 01:34 AM	#52
Wayne Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 823	Red, haven't seen you around so let me say Welcome. I have read about Mr. Marchiafava on keep and bear arms. He does come off abit rough but I agreed with his position in relation to what happend to him concerning the firearm (non)violation. Didn't know that he was doing the other things mentioned. Not that I don't agree with his actions, he's got more huzba than I do on the matter(s), but you have to agree that he knew the consequences of his actions. I will admit that doing what he does will get him into trouble, whether it's lawful or not (on the LEO's, etc.. part) and it would be great if others would stand together and not fall alone but that is what will always happen. No matter how many Waco's, Ruby Ridges, or Mark Marchiafava's out there, the only thing that will be accomplished is the general public watching it on the news or reading about it in the papers and then hitting the boards/blogs in keyboard kommando styes with the beginning of each entry worded as, "If I were there then...... ". And, as we have noticed quite clearly, nothing will be done to change a thing. As the individual Waco's, Ruby Ridges, and Mark Marchiafava's happen, the People will sit back, allow it to happen, and then do as they have always done within the past couple of decades, nothing. And those involved in the "take downs" will continue to get promoted, get tax payer funded raises, and special "job well done" BBQ's on the taxpayers dime. Not trying to be a downer but I am a realist. As much as I would love to live in a world as visualized by our forefathers, I must leave that fantasy world each morning as I awake and look at the world as it truly is, drink my coffee, and head of to work so I can support said world with my hard earned money through the taking of taxes. They say that it's time to "lock and load" but in today's world that is nothing more than people sitting behind their monitors typing nothing more than mere words which will never manifest. We all know that we've lost any resembalance to what was created to what it is today. We can be grateful that we do have some outlet to show off our firearms, discuss the use of, and to have chats with people of like minds. Yet we all know deep down that nothing is going to be done by the People, that we are on borrowed time to maintain our hobby, and that when the time comes (not if) we will do the same as our Cousins over the pond and just give in and give them up. Sure, some shots will be fired, but in such a weak attempt that it will only be on a 30 sec. segment on the nightly news as they move on to the weather forecast and what major league sports team won whatever it is they play. The time of our forefathers has long passed and we are steam rolling into the "new age" where all will be punished, none will have a say, and the majority of the People will do as they are told. I would love to live in a fantasy world and do as I thought was right, but most can't, or won't, so therefore their only outlook on life is to "go with the flow" and do as they are told. Wayne

June 14th, 2006, 03:46 AM	#53
older gunner Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Florida Panhandle Posts: 592	Open carry is not an option here in Florida, but when I lived in Georgia and went camping in the No. Ga mountains, I always carried open. It is allowed under those circumstances and I think it was a deterent against opportunistic attack in remote areas. I'm much happier with the concealed carry option that I use now. Why advertise in a populated area?