Im no longer a N.Y.S. resident. Is My N.Y.S. permit still valid?

gregarat · June 13th, 2006, 07:24 PM

In the end of June Im flying back home, for a week. I want to bring my 1911(, maybe my Kel Tec sub-rifle also).
for my Grandfather, and myself to shoot. I know he will get a kick out of shooting the same firearm he shot when he was in the Navy.
I just dont know if Im still legal in N.Y.S.?

Steelhorse · June 13th, 2006, 07:29 PM

Sorry Greg.......

NYS does not issue non resident pistol permits. When you ceased being a resident of NY, your permit became invalid.

However, if you maintain a residency in NYS.........you still have a valid permit.

gregarat · June 13th, 2006, 07:42 PM

Darn! I wish N.Y. would join the United States of America.

Thats a huge reason why I left in the first place.

Quote:

However, if you maintain a residency in NYS.........you still have a valid permit.

Would that be too late to do now?

cynergy · June 13th, 2006, 09:40 PM

gregarat,

if you are no longer a NY state resident, you might want to check with your county office (the one that issued your NY state permit). I believe that you are required to surrender your permit once you are no longer a resident. I believe you can mail it to them (I was able to mail mine once I left NY state), but you had better check with them.

Also, it might be a good idea to make copies of your license and get some kind of receipt when you surrender it.

Enjoy your new home!

cynergy

Weeg · June 14th, 2006, 06:53 AM

If I remember correctly, my NY permit stated, in red letters: "Good until revoked"

I'd still look into it though

.

gregarat · June 14th, 2006, 08:44 AM

Hu? Surrender.... what does that word mean?

If N.Y. wants it back they can ask. I dont feel confortable with surrender my permit volentarely. Why dont I just give the socalist jerks all of my guns that I was forced to register as well

? If N.Y. wants to negotiate, they can start by refunding me the $ I spent on the permit.

Cynergy,
I am by no means trying to offend you, but the idea of surrendering my rights is offencive to me. If someone can find proof that I have to give them my permit, I would do so. Then Hillery can use it as toilet paper! Untill then N.Y.S can kiss my butt!

gregarat · June 14th, 2006, 09:30 AM

I dug out my dusty N.Y. permit. There is no red letters, but it does say.

"This license is issued under the folowing conditions:

1. It is revokable at any time.

2. If issued outside New York City, not valid to carry a weapon in New York City unless approved by the police commissioner of that city"

Im sure if you offer, they would snach it back with a smile on their face. But like Weeg and myself said. If they are not going to revoke it, I find no reason yet to give it to them. Im afraid that if I simply asked a state/county clerk they would lye, or assume. I want offical documentation.

Abit off the subject: I did notice that my photo is just stapeled on, it has my weapons searial #'s on the list of hand guns, and it looks as though a idiot could alter the typewriten personal info. This permit is a thieves wet dream!

They expect you to carry this on your person, while in posesion of your handgun! That scares the snot out of me. It should scare the snot of any N.Y.S handgun owning resident as well. New Yorkers, keep this poorly made document safe! To Albany, shame on you!

Yes sir,
I am glad not to live there any more!

AKsrule · June 14th, 2006, 10:06 AM

As another FORMER NYer , here's my 2 cents.

Since you are no longer a NY resident , there is no Legal
way NY can make you surrender a piece of paper.

However , if they ever become aware that you are no longer a
NY resident , they WILL Revoke your permit.

Also , since you are not legally a NY resident , DO NOT bring
a handgun into that state!!

Weeg · June 14th, 2006, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregarat

There is no red letters

Mine did "Good Until Revoked"

Got it in Eire County (Buffalo) in the late 80's

.

June 13th, 2006, 07:24 PM	#1
gregarat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Central NYS Posts: 856	Im no longer a N.Y.S. resident. Is My N.Y.S. permit still valid? In the end of June Im flying back home, for a week. I want to bring my 1911(, maybe my Kel Tec sub-rifle also). for my Grandfather, and myself to shoot. I know he will get a kick out of shooting the same firearm he shot when he was in the Navy. I just dont know if Im still legal in N.Y.S.? __________________ “Little beat big when little smart. First with the head, then with the heart.” Geel piet. From the movie “The Power of one”

June 14th, 2006, 08:44 AM	#6
gregarat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Central NYS Posts: 856	Hu? Surrender.... what does that word mean? If N.Y. wants it back they can ask. I dont feel confortable with surrender my permit volentarely. Why dont I just give the socalist jerks all of my guns that I was forced to register as well ? If N.Y. wants to negotiate, they can start by refunding me the $ I spent on the permit. Cynergy, I am by no means trying to offend you, but the idea of surrendering my rights is offencive to me. If someone can find proof that I have to give them my permit, I would do so. Then Hillery can use it as toilet paper! Untill then N.Y.S can kiss my butt! __________________ “Little beat big when little smart. First with the head, then with the heart.” Geel piet. From the movie “The Power of one” Last edited by gregarat; June 14th, 2006 at 08:55 AM.

June 14th, 2006, 09:30 AM	#7
gregarat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Central NYS Posts: 856	I dug out my dusty N.Y. permit. There is no red letters, but it does say. "This license is issued under the folowing conditions: 1. It is revokable at any time. 2. If issued outside New York City, not valid to carry a weapon in New York City unless approved by the police commissioner of that city" Im sure if you offer, they would snach it back with a smile on their face. But like Weeg and myself said. If they are not going to revoke it, I find no reason yet to give it to them. Im afraid that if I simply asked a state/county clerk they would lye, or assume. I want offical documentation. Abit off the subject: I did notice that my photo is just stapeled on, it has my weapons searial #'s on the list of hand guns, and it looks as though a idiot could alter the typewriten personal info. This permit is a thieves wet dream! They expect you to carry this on your person, while in posesion of your handgun! That scares the snot out of me. It should scare the snot of any N.Y.S handgun owning resident as well. New Yorkers, keep this poorly made document safe! To Albany, shame on you! Yes sir, I am glad not to live there any more! __________________ “Little beat big when little smart. First with the head, then with the heart.” Geel piet. From the movie “The Power of one”

June 14th, 2006, 10:06 AM	#8
AKsrule Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 666	As another FORMER NYer , here's my 2 cents. Since you are no longer a NY resident , there is no Legal way NY can make you surrender a piece of paper. However , if they ever become aware that you are no longer a NY resident , they WILL Revoke your permit. Also , since you are not legally a NY resident , DO NOT bring a handgun into that state!! __________________ ------- -SIG , it's What's for Dinner- know your rights! http://www.handgunlaw.us "If I walk in the woods, I feel much more comfortable carrying a gun. What if you meet a bear in the woods that's going to attack you? You shoot it." {Bernhard Goetz}

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June 13th, 2006, 07:29 PM	#2
Steelhorse Closed Account Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 178	Sorry Greg....... NYS does not issue non resident pistol permits. When you ceased being a resident of NY, your permit became invalid. However, if you maintain a residency in NYS.........you still have a valid permit.

June 13th, 2006, 09:40 PM	#4
cynergy New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2	gregarat, if you are no longer a NY state resident, you might want to check with your county office (the one that issued your NY state permit). I believe that you are required to surrender your permit once you are no longer a resident. I believe you can mail it to them (I was able to mail mine once I left NY state), but you had better check with them. Also, it might be a good idea to make copies of your license and get some kind of receipt when you surrender it. Enjoy your new home! cynergy

June 14th, 2006, 06:53 AM	#5
Weeg Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NC Posts: 290	If I remember correctly, my NY permit stated, in red letters: "Good until revoked" I'd still look into it though .