JerryM

Nothing except my CHL in my wallet.

Jerry

garn

Not even a drivers license?!

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FlyboyLDB

#1 Mr. An is dead because he was (mis)identified as the BG and did not comply with the LEOs.

#2 This type of visual ID most likely would not have been large enough to allow anyone in the heat of the moment to identify someone as a permit holder - Mr. An most likely would still be dead even if he had this.

#3 Our GFLs here in GA are nothing more than a piece of paper with a thumb/finger print - easily duplicated.

My worry is not so much about LEOs arriving on the scene - but rather other permit/license holders. I think we are pretty much in the same boat as off duty or plain clothes LEOs - you are going to be restrained in some fashion until indentification transpires and the situation is secure. Off duty LEOs usually do not walk around with their badges in the open.

I don't know what the answer is as far as quick indentification. I will not assume the first person I see with a gun is the BG - and I hope others will do the same. It could be a fellow ccw/permit/license holder you just drew down on - and in turn you are now the BG to him/her - or someone else.

I don't think there is any harm in your fold down permit/license holder - I just do not know how useful it would be at any given distance. Will I just think it is some employment badge?

JerryM

No, I do not shoot from my car. :)

crzy4guns

I will use my badge to properly identify myself as a sworn off duty firefighter to any LEO that shows up after a violent confrontation where my firearm was drawn in self defense, so right now that would not be for me. However, after I am retired, perhaps I would be inclined to use something like that in the future.

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cwblanco

I can see it now -- bad guys advertising phony "ARMED decals for only $100.00. Enhances armed robbery success by 100% by making the public think you are one of the good guys."

If you want to give up concealed carry and go to open carry, why don't you just come out and say it. On the other hand, if you have yearnings to be a cop or a soldier, go apply.

In the meanwhile, if there is any problem, I have my permit in my wallet.

Bark'n

I do not understand what people who promote or want to use these gimmicks or ccw badges think they are gaining?

From the eye of the responding LEO on a shooting incident or a "man with a gun" call... to see such an item being displayed at them does absolutely nothing to verify that the holder is in fact a good guy! Period! What it does do is attempt to distract the LEO from focusing on what is actually before him... a man holding a gun! Why on earth would any officer in their right mind automatically assume said person is a good guy and not a fraud?

Every expert, LEO or otherwise say to "Follow the commands of responding LEO's and Do Exactly As They Say and You Won't Get Shot!" and also, "If you can... Have Your Gun On The Ground or Back In the Holster when they arrive!"

For some people they will never accept that advice, or it just isn't good enough for them.

They seem to "must have" the ccw badge, or some "special ID holder" or some other gimmick!

Which leads one to question, What is the real motive for wanting a ccw badge?

Well, choose to use that gimmick at your own peril.

I choose to do what I know works! Do what the cops tell me to, and put my gun away before they show up!

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"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, will prey on those of us who without one, would surely perish."

JerryM

Why not just make sure the gun is not in your hand when the LEO arrives? If the BG is alive, and not on the ground it is harder, but I would just back off, holster my gun, and raise my hands. As long as the BG is not dangerous, and I cannot imagine why he would be at that time, just let the officers take charge, and follow their instructions.

And maybe show my driver's license.:) They still let me have one, although I get tested every year now. And, Oh Yes, my CHL also, but no badge or other stuff.

Best,
Jerry

HotGuns

Bad idea.

Its use implies a few things that are absolutely wrong.

Wearing it and flipping it out, gives the user the false assumption that a responding cop sees it or even recognizes it.

Assuming anything in a shooting scenario or even with cops responding in force to what they hear on the radio that says "shots fired at so and so" has and will continue to get people killed.

Someone that thinks that they are safe because of this little gizmo and takes just a second longer to react to a command because they think "hey...I am a good guy and I got this little thingy here that says so, so I'm OK" can and will get shot by the time it took them to think that long.

And then...guess what...

you'll be dead and laying in your own blood with your little "I'm a legal concealed weapons holder" ID card flipped out laying right beside you.
A lot of good that will do.

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SIXTO

I hate the CCW badges, and well, I hate this cheesy thing too.

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