National Permit for Military?

me · June 8th, 2007, 10:55 PM

Ok so I wanted to call BS on this but did not. would you all please help me out here. a friend of mine claims he is going to be getting a national Concealed Carry permit, He claims that it is only available to military personnel because "they travel a lot." He is stationed in Germany and home on leave but would not even be able to use it in Germany. Am I right to want to call bull.

Also I did call Bull on him telling me he wanted a Glock Snub Nose. I explained to him that a Snub Nose is a revolver and Glock makes Pistols.

Timmy Jimmy · June 8th, 2007, 11:00 PM

There is no national carry for military unless he is Military Police in which case I am not sure if that will fall under the law that Bush signed a few years back giving cops (or retired cops) the right to carry anywhere!

Echo_Four · June 8th, 2007, 11:02 PM

I would assume a snub nosed Glock would be the "Baby Glocks" so for a non-gun person I'd say close enough.

There is no national carry for anyone other than LEOs, so he's wrong or just plain lying.

tanksoldier · June 8th, 2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by me

Ok so I wanted to call BS on this but did not. would you all please help me out here. a friend of mine claims he is going to be getting a national Concealed Carry permit, He claims that it is only available to military personnel because "they travel a lot." He is stationed in Germany and home on leave but would not even be able to use it in Germany. Am I right to want to call bull.

Also I did call Bull on him telling me he wanted a Glock Snub Nose. I explained to him that a Snub Nose is a revolver and Glock makes Pistols.

Your friend is full of BS. There are no nation-wide permits for anybody, esp not military personnel. The only Soldiers who can carry off duty are CID agents, and that is a function of their job not a permit as such. They carry Sig P228/ M11's. Military law enforcement, except those who qualify as federal agents (CID, NCIS, AFOSI), aren't covered under the LEO carry law. Regular MPs and such don't qualify.

Also, Glock makes compact and subcompact weapons, but "snubnose" is a term for revolvers.

Daddy Warcrimes · June 8th, 2007, 11:17 PM

AR 190-14

Quote:

2–8. Carrying concealed firearms
a. Military or civilian personnel may carry concealed firearms
while performing law enforcement or security duties if carrying
firearms openly would compromise the mission.
b. Personnel authorized to carry concealed firearms will possess
documentation identifying their law enforcement or security duty
status and authorization to carry a concealed firearm. During covert
operations, field grade commanders or provost marshals may waive
the requirement to carry identifying documentation if such could
compromise the mission or endanger the person carrying the
weapon (requires sufficient control over operations to ensure that
authorization and identification can be readily verified if required).
A waiver under such situations does not preclude the requirement
for written authorization to carry a firearm.

That's the only military CC permit I know of (it would be good in Germany or anywhere for that matter).

Military police are not actually considered law enforcement, they don't get to carry off duty any more than everyone else (in Alaska, even less).

If there is a military permit, I'd really like to know how he got it because I want one.

JerryM · June 8th, 2007, 11:25 PM

I would doubt that the military commanders would permit such carry. Some might, but many or most would not.

Jerry

downrange · June 8th, 2007, 11:57 PM

umm... BS. ...nuff said.

wht06rado · June 8th, 2007, 11:57 PM

If there is a military permit, I'd really like to know how he got it because I want one.

+1 I want one too!! But there is no such thing. And tell him that he needs to learn his stuff before he starts to carry a loaded gun around.

mark555 · June 9th, 2007, 12:07 AM

He has so much BS he could furtilize a field, he must squish when he walks, he …well you get my drift.

Beans · June 9th, 2007, 01:32 AM

There has been a rumor (maybe) about OPERATORS being allowed to carry 24/7 as part of thier job.??????

This rumor came from a Navy Master Chief that works in SpecOPS on and in some sensitive areas.

I know he carrys 24/7 and it is a SIG 226 No Civilian CCW as he is stationed in CA. He is not NIS-- ETC

Rumor. Maybe maybe not

June 8th, 2007, 10:55 PM	#1
me Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: PA Posts: 895	National Permit for Military? Ok so I wanted to call BS on this but did not. would you all please help me out here. a friend of mine claims he is going to be getting a national Concealed Carry permit, He claims that it is only available to military personnel because "they travel a lot." He is stationed in Germany and home on leave but would not even be able to use it in Germany. Am I right to want to call bull. Also I did call Bull on him telling me he wanted a Glock Snub Nose. I explained to him that a Snub Nose is a revolver and Glock makes Pistols. __________________ Mark "The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose." -James Earl Jones

June 8th, 2007, 11:00 PM	#2
Timmy Jimmy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 759	There is no national carry for military unless he is Military Police in which case I am not sure if that will fall under the law that Bush signed a few years back giving cops (or retired cops) the right to carry anywhere! __________________ Timmy Jimmy If it is not in the US Constitution then the Federal Government should not be doing it. "Carrying a gun is a social responsibility."

June 8th, 2007, 11:02 PM	#3
Echo_Four Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,029	I would assume a snub nosed Glock would be the "Baby Glocks" so for a non-gun person I'd say close enough. There is no national carry for anyone other than LEOs, so he's wrong or just plain lying. __________________ "The only people I like besides my wife and children are Marines." - Lt. Col. Oliver North Firearm Facts Christian Warrior Ministries

June 8th, 2007, 11:57 PM	#7
downrange Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: levittown PA Posts: 568	umm... BS. ...nuff said. __________________ What's this button do?

June 8th, 2007, 11:57 PM	#8
wht06rado Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 744	If there is a military permit, I'd really like to know how he got it because I want one. +1 I want one too!! But there is no such thing. And tell him that he needs to learn his stuff before he starts to carry a loaded gun around. __________________ “They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security” Benjamin Franklin I'm not pro gun, I'm pro rights. What are you? NRA Member ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

June 8th, 2007, 11:25 PM	#6
JerryM Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 766	I would doubt that the military commanders would permit such carry. Some might, but many or most would not. Jerry

June 9th, 2007, 12:07 AM	#9
mark555 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Center of the World Ma! Center of the World! Posts: 678	He has so much BS he could furtilize a field, he must squish when he walks, he …well you get my drift. __________________ "Hell of a thing, killin' a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." - William Munny (Clint Eastwood in the Unfrogivin) “The graveyards are full of indispensable men.” – Napoleon Bonaparte “My Idea of a fair fight is beating baby seals with a club”

June 9th, 2007, 01:32 AM	#10
Beans Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: AZ Territory, Border County Posts: 141	There has been a rumor (maybe) about OPERATORS being allowed to carry 24/7 as part of thier job.?????? This rumor came from a Navy Master Chief that works in SpecOPS on and in some sensitive areas. I know he carrys 24/7 and it is a SIG 226 No Civilian CCW as he is stationed in CA. He is not NIS-- ETC Rumor. Maybe maybe not

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