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Kavity,

What's your problem with your car? Does it have large side bolsters, like a racing seat? If that's the case, you will find it much more comfortable to shove the holster back on your belt toward your spine. For example, I normally carry my XD at about 8:00 (lefty, slightly behind my hip). When I sit in my car, I have to move it to about 7:00 - about 3 inches back on my belt. This way, you don't get jabbed by a sharp corner, you're seated flat against the gun. Try it, it's lots more comfortable.

As far as your choice to not dress around the gun, you are experiencing the results of that choice. You should carry the largest gun you are willing and able to live with and conceal on a daily basis. In my case, that's the XD, about 90% of the time. However, I do go with just the little P3AT on occasion, when it's just not feasible due to mode of dress to carry a full size gun.

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No and I'm going N frame

Bark'n

If going in metro area I carry G-23 and XD9sc with reloads 80+ rounds. I can carry that fairly comfortably 8-10 hours no problem with moderate activity. (14 hours I'm feeling it but usually not necessary to go that long)

Mode of carry is what really matters! I can have one or two reloads in ankle rigs on each ankle so walk isn't lopsided. Sometimes carry reloads in belt mounted dual mag carriers

I never carry a gun on an ankle rig. Too uncomfortable for me. I will only put reloads and maybe ID or "emergency cash" in an ankle rig.

One gun will be in a "high chest mounted" belly band type rig and other gun in an IWB or OWB holster.

Occasionally in Hi-Risk situations will add 3rd gun "snubbie" (no reloads or one reload in speed strip) in front or back pocket.

God, I hope people don't think that's too paranoid!

I can actually run with all that, and things stay snug and held in place. But it goes to having good quality gear!

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"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, will prey on those of us who without one, would surely perish."

kavity

Yea I have a Honda prelude and the seats are "racing" style seats. I would have to switch to the paddle holster for my blackhawk serpa if I wanted to be able to move my gun from 3:00 to 5:00-ish. Seems like a lot of work for as much getting in and out of the car I do. I found that if I get in the car a certain way I can sit in their bearably with the holster on. Either way, it would still be next to impossible for me to draw from my holster while seated in my car.

I was thinking about mounting my XD Gear holster to my center console so that I could put the gun in there while driving, but switching to and from my holster might cause some issues with concealment (It wouldn't be hard to see that transition). I was thinking about doing something to the seat to make it more comfortable.

kavity

Thats getting up that on the "overboard" scale. If you have to use more than 40 rounds then you are SOL and some serious sh** has hit a rather large fan. Isn't the average "shooting incident" over in less than 10 seconds? You seem like you are strapped up ready to go to war. If thats your thing then go for it I'm not trying to get into a firefight though







...rambo

Bark'n

Been in more than one "mob" situation when I wasn't armed... And it was totally unintentional being there. Wasn't sure if I was going to make it out.

Just last month they had that "Juneteenth" situation where the guy was beat to death just to resurect the feeling when I was in a similar situation.

Like I said, I ain't always packing that heat, but if I'm in a major metro area and frequently my off duty work takes me to large gatherings in unsavory places I do go to that extent.

I am fully aware a lot of people don't work or have business in anything other than traditional jobs. I practice avoidance at all times and I have found when armed like that, I've never had a situation even remotely come up.... Seems it's only been at times when I was unarmed. (Maybe it's Mr. Murphy at play)

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"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, will prey on those of us who without one, would surely perish."

ccw9mm

Whatever the "average" is, keep in mind that fully half of events take longer and expend more ammo than the average (well, at least the median). If all defended against merely the average expectation, a good percentage of folks would be SOL. Personally, I'd prefer to be better prepared than that. I'm sure many would.

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kavity

I understand completely. I'm not knockin you...wouldn't mind having you standing next to me if shtf If you are going into situations where "mob" mentality could take place then that doesn't seem as over-the-top...just prepared.

Carrying an extra mag or two is the norm around these parts. For me thats 32 reload rounds to compliment my 17 in my gun. Thats about 50 rounds. IMHO if you have to reload that 3rd magazine then you better be looking real hard for a place to run. Not many people would stick around if you were firing that many shots in their direction. And if you missed your target(s) after that then you need ALOT more range time. Unless, you (like Bark'n) have a solid reason for needing 80+ in reloads thats a little excessive, imho.

This thread is getting a little off topic now.

Bark'n

True, and trust me... I was a bit suprised when I added it up...

but when you think about it, it's just two guns with two reloads for each gun.

Not too excessive G-23 has 13 rnd mags and the XD has two 16 round mags and the 10 rounder in the gun.

And again, totally dependant on situations and whether I'm off the reservation and out of state.

Frequently it's just one reload for each gun. That's 52 rounds right there.

My thought process goes something like this.... Do I think I need two reloads or one reload, and then put them on....

I really didn't think about how many bullets it was until I added it up to post here. I mean I was kind of taken back too.

Staying on topic... I carry one of each... a Glock compact and an XD sub compact

YMMV

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Semper Fi

"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, will prey on those of us who without one, would surely perish."

ccw9mm

Actually, it's right on topic, given that the selection of a compact versus sub-compact affects more than mere size. It entails the whole range of tradeoffs: size/concealability, weight/comfort, nbr of rounds available, ability to manage follow-on shots & accuracy in general, options in after-market options or gear to support the given choices, and so on.

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Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
Reports: CZ P01 pt1, pt2.
Thoughts: Justifiable self defense.
Reality: Disarming citizens only results in more victims.
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