Rossman

Do what I do. Pick up an XD (or Glock if your confused). Work on the 1911.

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bmwaddicted

The logic is that I can't modify my duty weapon in any way. If I could, I would modify my G23 exactly the way I've modified my G19. As far as holstering goes, its the same as holstering it with the safety on. The only thing I do different is that I put my thumb on the back the slide to prevent it being pushed out of battery as stated before. I think that In the case of the glock 'safe action trigger', In reality it encourages unsafe gun handling. I have seen many glock shooters that place their finger on the trigger to prep it before they fire their shot. This goes against proper training, but I have seen many that do it.

FLSquirrelHunter

1911, hammer, external (exposed)
XD, striker, internal

cocked and locked is safe, but if someone doesn't want to use the thumb safety on a 1911, the XD 45 is the closest comparable configuration, and safer that a 1911 cocked and unlocked


Most of the people who carry every day will never need to carry. So carrying safely is extremely important. Anyone who needed a weapon needs to have 'point and shoot' ease of use. For folks who can afford to train regularly with the 1911, that's great. For those who don't or won't have the time and money to train, the holstered XD, Glock, or DA revolver is safe carry, point and shoot option.

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retsupt99

The most important safety on any firearm is the 'finger'. I have two weapons I share as my EDC...a Glock-36, and a Kimber Ultra...
I enjoy both weapons and feel very comfortable with either for different reasons.
You question, however, is about C&L on the 1911...and C&L is the only way I would carry my Ultra.
Why not have all of the safety features made...be available for your use?
Believe me, after thousands of draws, you won't even think about the safety...it will be off as the weapon clears your holster. It will become part of the draw...naturally!

OMO...

Respectfully, of course!

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ICTsnub

BMW, the gist of my question was about why you diverge from policy on your time. You and I work in very different fields, but in the same town. My bosses have very strict policies, and want us to do things the same EVERY time. It's because it works. Period. They are my boss's because of skill, experience, and training. If you think your boss has less knowledge than you, or is putting you at risk, leave. I believe this so strongly, I quit a job I loved a month ago. My question to you is, are you doing something unsafe your department does not allow, or, is your department asking you to do something that puts you at risk?

bmwaddicted

I understand my department policy and don't have a problem with it at all. My G23 is an department issued gun, which is the reason that it can't be changed in any way. I feel that it is a good policy because the average officer does not train with their firearm as much as I do. So any changes they make to their pistol could be a liability to the city if an negligent discharge happened with a duty pistol. I feel perfectly capable using a stock glock. Having that said, I prefer my G19 with the modified trigger for off duty carry. The chances of me using my duty pistol are small since I got promoted to investigations. I spend most of my day behind a desk. There is no policy that says off-duty I can not carry a personal firearm. I love my job and if they had a problem with me carrying a modified pistol off duty, then I would carry my stock G23 off duty as well.

Blackeagle

The issue is not the amount of time it takes to get the safety off. The issue is that in a high stress situation you might not hit the safety and end up with a gun that doesn't go bang when you need it to.

dls56

Try to take time out of your day to do dry fire drills. It will help you un-holster, re-holster, aim and squeeze the trigger and will go a long way to help you stay on target while live firing. Become familiar with your carry weapon and by all means carry your 1911 cocked and LOCKED.
Even if you can only find the time two or three times a week to do this it will help your muscle memory skills.

gotammo

If you don't have confidence in the reliability of your firearm don't carry it, If you can't reliably use it don't carry it.
The chances of you needing your firearm are astronomically low to start with unless you go looking for trouble so your better off with the safety engaged like it was designed.

Tangle

Actually, an H&K with a LEM trigger is the closest thing to a SA I've seen. The LEM has almost no resistance until you hit the break point and then it's practically pressure release with very, very little additional motion. Very, very similar to a 1911.

So just for sake of discussion, how is the LEM any more or less safe than a cocked 1911 (i.e. thumb safety off), with a functional grip safety?

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