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Old August 20th, 2007, 12:37 PM   #1
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Kayak carry

Hello all:
I am looking for a good way to carry while doing some flat water kayaking. I am probably going to carry my makorov as it is my "beater gun". I bite my tongue as I say that, I reall do love that gun. My other thought is my S&W .22s. I was thinking of mounting a holster into the kayak. I typicall carry the Makarov iwb so this would not seem too comfortable. I also always wear a life jacket. so a shoulder holster seems to be out of the question. Any thoughts and direction are greatly appreciated.


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Old August 20th, 2007, 12:53 PM   #2
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I would consider a Glock if you expect it to be submerged at times. At least find a stainless steel piece if possible. I would be afraid for my Makarov or any other blued gun.

If it were me, I would bring my S&W 642.

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Old August 20th, 2007, 01:00 PM   #3
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I do not expect it to be submerged. I will not carry while whitewater kayaking, only flat water. I have a 10 month old and Just bought my first home so a new gun purchace is not an option. I am just going to make due with what I have. Makarov, S&W .22s, S&W PPKs two tone .380. I do have a dry bag for phone, camera, ect... I was thinking about putting one of my firearms in it as well, put it would be hard to get at. My kayak also has a dry compartment behing the cockpit.
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Old August 20th, 2007, 02:12 PM   #4
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Even with a stainless steel gun the firing pin and all of the springs are carbon steel and will rust if you don't completely disassemble and oil it. No gun is made with the intention of submerging it. I recommend putting your gun in a quart ziplock bag and then into a loose holster with a retention strap. If you wear a shirt use one of the undercover shirts under it. If not, perhaps a fanny pack or some type of Thunderwear or belly band might work.
funny where water ends up while boating, this is good advice.
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If I was "playing in da' water" I would carry a Glock.
I suggest you place your gun, preferably Glock, in a ziplock bag and then place that in a DriBag. You can get Dribags at most Kayaking shops.
The reason I suggest a Glock is because of where water ends up when you are kayaking, not because I love "plastic pistols". I only own one Glock, just for reasons like this.

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Old August 20th, 2007, 02:55 PM   #6
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Getting back to the original question, you made a comment about a shoulder holster so I assume you have one. Is it possible to loosen your shoulder holster so as to put it on outside the life vest? Or can you maneuver it under the vest so it rides high and in a position that would allow you to get your hand on the gun? Hard to explain but I have this vision in my head of what I am trying to tell you. I don't kayak but what little I know I think you have a cover around your middle which would make anything on the waist hard to get at. Sorry I can't come up with anything else.
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Old August 20th, 2007, 03:47 PM   #7
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For kayaking, unless you expect to need a quick-draw of your gun--in which case you'd better expect to deal with some corrosion if you carry the gun exposed--I recommend keeping the gun in either a Pelican Case or an Otter Box. They are mostly the same, and I have used both. Each company makes lots of different sizes, and you'd want one with foam inserts (egg-carton type, possibly).

Then, you want to never open the case when you're near the water except if you need to use the gun. Tether the gun to the kayak, too, using something sturdy.

I have used drybags too, and I would not trust my gun to them. Not that they have leaked for me, but that they have far greater potential to than the dry boxes do.
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I think we also need to know what kind ow water. Salt or fresh?

I paddle a Seward Navigator in fresh water and carry my S&W 642 in the front pocket of my PFD.

I stuck the 642 into a Ziplock sandwich bad and tucked the whole thing into the PFD. I can draw and fire through the bag if necessary and the front pocket keeps it close.

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You also want to make sure you are rotating your ammunition. It shouldn't get wet, but you may see some condensation inside the bag. I don't want to trust my life to wet ammo. Maybe get some old dessicant packs and throw in the bag too.

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Old August 20th, 2007, 05:13 PM   #9
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To havegunjoe: I have a one of those cloth shoulder holsters from kangaroo industries. I'm not sure if this would work with my life jacket.
To BIG E: I kayak on fresh water.

My curren life jacket has only one small pocket in the front. Maybe I will buy a new one with a bigger pocket.
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Old August 20th, 2007, 06:23 PM   #10
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If it is a "just in case" and quick access is not required, the vacuum seal food savers do a good job of waterproof storage for smallish items (including handguns and/or ammo). Heck, with the cut to length bag material, you can even vacuum seal a .22 rifle. The bag material is pretty tough...

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