The "man" and myself - Page 2

JimmyC4 · September 20th, 2007, 10:43 AM

When carrying concealed, unless it's requred by law in the state, there's no point in blurting out "I'm armed"...unless it's relevant to what's going on or if asked, you're doing nothing wrong, so why act like you are....

PeterCartwright · September 20th, 2007, 11:31 AM

Sounds to me like both you and the officer acted exactly right. Can you imagine a police officer NOT investigating if he saw a person handling a handgun in a residential neighborhood? And, for that matter, handcuffing a person "of interest" is the safest thing for both officer and "suspect" (until the officer clarifies the situation). In my judgment, you did exactly the right thing by immediately informing the officer that you were (legally) armed. Nobody was endangered. Nobody got hurt. And your reaction probably helped our cause.

These kinds of interactions are going to happen. I think you BOTH "done good".

me · September 20th, 2007, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap'n_America

Am I taking this wrong.....Do you have a CCW permit? I'm guessing, no, from what you are saying. If you do have a permit there is not much I can add, but if you don't then you are a very lucky young man to have been released by the LEO. Carrying a concealed, loaded, firearm without a permit in the state of Tennessee is a Class A Felony. Not only would you be facing felony charges, your chance of ever getting a CCW permit would be gone. If you do not have a permit, do not carry a firearm until you do!

Difference in AZ Law VS TN law here (My understanding, with a good grasp on TN) is that AZ law allows for those with out permits to carry as long as they are 2 actions away from firing. hence the reason he emptied his chamber.. Once he hit private property though he was legal and if the cop Knowing he was armed ordered him off he then had to comply there by being legal.

YMMV

SilenceDoGood · September 20th, 2007, 02:54 PM

I'm going to call the Tempe police and figure out why i was initailly pulled over, i'm very curious.

havegunjoe · September 20th, 2007, 04:45 PM

OK folks, what am I missing? Why were you detained/handcuffed? What's not being said in the post?

BIG E · September 20th, 2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by QKShooter

Once the situation is cool and everybody is all calm you sure can ask the LEO why you were stopped or approached.
It's perfectly logical to want an answer as to why the event occurred in the first place.

Yea, what gives here? I would definitely want to know why all this took place.

scott4957 · September 20th, 2007, 06:14 PM

Do you have a CC permit? It sounded from your post as if you do not have a permit to carry.

Scott

Pitmaster · September 20th, 2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by havegunjoe

OK folks, what am I missing? Why were you detained/handcuffed? What's not being said in the post?

I'm guessing this has something to do with it.

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"Well thank you for telling me that son, earlier tonight an officer had to shoot a suspect that drew a weapon"

I can't blame any police officer for being extra cautious after a local shooting. It also sounds like the officer was polite and respectful which would go along way. There is definitely a gray area in the legally armed citizen and police interactions. As long as both sides are polite, respectful, and honest I would tend give officer's the benefit of the doubt.

Dihappy · September 20th, 2007, 06:23 PM

I guess id like to know why you were messing with your gun in the first place.

Every time you handle your weapon you risk a ND. I understand your "friend" doesnt like you OWB carry in his home, but if why remove the mag and unchamber a round? Just move it to IWB. However if he doesnt want you armed in his home, thats a different story.

I can also understand you not wanting to leave it in your vehicle due to the possibility of theft, bt just remember that handling your firearm increases your chances of a ND.

On a side note, any close friends whos home i visit know i carry and know that i will not disarm, heck, none of my friends would even ask me to disarm.

Any other aquaintance whos home i must enter into, doesnt have to know i carry.

SilenceDoGood · September 20th, 2007, 07:13 PM

called tempe police and this what i got....... "sorry, but there is no narritive to why you were pulled over".... I smell somthing fishy.

September 20th, 2007, 10:43 AM	#11
JimmyC4 Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Minnesnowta Posts: 1,398	When carrying concealed, unless it's requred by law in the state, there's no point in blurting out "I'm armed"...unless it's relevant to what's going on or if asked, you're doing nothing wrong, so why act like you are.... __________________ ATTENTION VIETNAM VETS--For a list of diseases that Veterans Affairs (VA) considers presumptive to Agent Orange exposure, go to http://www.vba.va.gov/bln/21/benefit...cide/index.htm

September 20th, 2007, 02:54 PM	#14
SilenceDoGood Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 566	I'm going to call the Tempe police and figure out why i was initailly pulled over, i'm very curious. __________________ "A government is like fire, a handy servant, but a dangerous master." -- George Washington

September 20th, 2007, 04:45 PM	#15
havegunjoe Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,799	OK folks, what am I missing? Why were you detained/handcuffed? What's not being said in the post? __________________ DEMOCRACY IS TWO WOLVES AND A LAMB VOTING ON WHAT TO HAVE FOR LUNCH. LIBERTY IS A WELL ARMED LAMB CONTESTING THE VOTE. Certified Instructor for Minnesota Carry Permit NRA Pistol and Personal Protection Insrtuctor Utah Permit Certified Instructor

September 20th, 2007, 07:13 PM	#20
SilenceDoGood Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 566	called tempe police and this what i got....... "sorry, but there is no narritive to why you were pulled over".... I smell somthing fishy. __________________ "A government is like fire, a handy servant, but a dangerous master." -- George Washington

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September 20th, 2007, 11:31 AM	#12
PeterCartwright Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Michigan's U.P. Posts: 71	Sounds to me like both you and the officer acted exactly right. Can you imagine a police officer NOT investigating if he saw a person handling a handgun in a residential neighborhood? And, for that matter, handcuffing a person "of interest" is the safest thing for both officer and "suspect" (until the officer clarifies the situation). In my judgment, you did exactly the right thing by immediately informing the officer that you were (legally) armed. Nobody was endangered. Nobody got hurt. And your reaction probably helped our cause. These kinds of interactions are going to happen. I think you BOTH "done good".

September 20th, 2007, 06:14 PM	#17
scott4957 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 47	Do you have a CC permit? It sounded from your post as if you do not have a permit to carry. Scott

September 20th, 2007, 06:23 PM	#19
Dihappy Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 197	I guess id like to know why you were messing with your gun in the first place. Every time you handle your weapon you risk a ND. I understand your "friend" doesnt like you OWB carry in his home, but if why remove the mag and unchamber a round? Just move it to IWB. However if he doesnt want you armed in his home, thats a different story. I can also understand you not wanting to leave it in your vehicle due to the possibility of theft, bt just remember that handling your firearm increases your chances of a ND. On a side note, any close friends whos home i visit know i carry and know that i will not disarm, heck, none of my friends would even ask me to disarm. Any other aquaintance whos home i must enter into, doesnt have to know i carry.