OR CWP Carry in ID

Griblik · December 5th, 2007, 03:45 PM

Hey all,
I'm going to be traveling to Idaho in a couple days, and I'm wrestling with whether to carry on my trip or not. I'll be traveling through WA which does not honor OR's CWP, so it'll be unloaded and locked in the toolbox for that portion of the trip, but ID does honor OR's. I've finally gotten to the point of carrying most everywhere I go, and would really feel much better bringing one with me, but am only hestitant because I haven't really studied ID's laws on the matter like I have OR's. Don't want to do something that's legal here without even realizing it's illegal there. Does anyone have a good simple source for ID's carry laws I could review before I go, or ideally does anyone know of any major difference between OR and ID law that I should be aware of, or should I just bring my OC spray and my lucky hat and cross my fingers until I'm able to study the laws better? Thanks everybody..!

JD · December 5th, 2007, 03:48 PM

You can look HERE for starters. Click on the link for firearms laws.

Griblik · December 5th, 2007, 04:10 PM

JD, that was just what I needed. Looks like ID laws are nearly identical with very few exceptions. I'll be packin'..! Thanks for the fast info.

JD · December 5th, 2007, 04:23 PM

Not a problem, enjoy your trip and stay safe.

friesepferd · December 5th, 2007, 04:27 PM

read up on the laws
bring ur gun

rathos · December 5th, 2007, 05:18 PM

Are you sure Idaho honors Oregon's permit? Last time I checked on Oregon's website it said they did not honor anyones permit and theirs was not honored by anyone.

JD · December 5th, 2007, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rathos

Are you sure Idaho honors Oregon's permit? Last time I checked on Oregon's website it said they did not honor anyones permit and theirs was not honored by anyone.

That is true for reciprocity, however according to ID law, the following applies:

(g) Any person who has a valid permit from a state or local law
enforcement agency or court authorizing him to carry a concealed weapon. A
permit issued in another state will only be considered valid if the permit
is in the licensee's physical possession.

See section G below.

Further more, while Oregon does not recognize any other states permit (as seen HERE), they have no bearing on what other states recognize, it is out of their jurisdiction to say what ID can and can not recognize.

Quote:

(11) The sheriff of a county may issue a license to carry a concealed
weapon to those individuals between the ages of eighteen (18) and twenty-one
(21) years who in the judgment of the sheriff warrant the issuance of the
license to carry a concealed weapon. Such issuance shall be subject to
limitations which the issuing authority deems appropriate. Licenses issued to
individuals between the ages of eighteen (18) and twenty-one (21) years shall
be easily distinguishable from regular licenses.
(12) The requirement to secure a license to carry a concealed weapon under
this section shall not apply to the following persons:
(a) Officials of a county, city, state of Idaho, the United States, peace
officers, guards of any jail, court appointed attendants or any officer of
any express company on duty;
(b) Employees of the adjutant general and military division of the state
where military membership is a condition of employment when on duty;
(c) Criminal investigators of the attorney general's office, criminal
investigators of a prosecuting attorney's office, prosecutors and their
deputies;
(d) Any person outside the limits of or confines of any city while
engaged in lawful hunting, fishing, trapping or other lawful outdoor
activity;
(e) Any publicly elected Idaho official;
(f) Retired peace officers or detention deputies with at least ten (10)
years of service with the state or a political subdivision as a peace
officer or detention deputy and who have been certified by the peace
officer standards and training council;
(g) Any person who has a valid permit from a state or local law
enforcement agency or court authorizing him to carry a concealed weapon. A
permit issued in another state will only be considered valid if the permit
is in the licensee's physical possession.
(13) When issuing a license pursuant to this section, the sheriff may
require the applicant to demonstrate familiarity with a firearm and shall
accept any of the following, provided the applicant may select which one:
(a) Completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved
by the department of fish and game or a similar agency of another state;
or
(b) Completion of any national rifle association firearms safety or
training course, or any national rifle association hunter education
course; or
(c) Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class
available to the general public offered by a law enforcement agency,
community college, college, university, or private or public institution
or organization or firearms training school, utilizing instructors
certified by the national rifle association or the Idaho state police; or
(d) Completion of any law enforcement firearms safety or training course
or class offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies, or
any division or subdivision of a law enforcement agency or security
enforcement agency; or
(e) Presents evidence or equivalent experience with a firearm through
participation in organized shooting competition or military service; or
(f) Is licensed or has been licensed to carry a firearm in this state or
a county or municipality, unless the license has been revoked for cause;
or
(g) Completion of any firearms training or training or safety course or
class conducted by a state certified or national rifle association
certified firearms instructor.
(14) A person carrying a concealed weapon in violation of the provisions
of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
(15) The sheriff of the county where the license was issued or the sheriff
of the county where the person resides shall have the power to revoke a
license subsequent to a hearing in accordance with the provisions of chapter
52, title 67, Idaho Code, for any of the following reasons:
(a) Fraud or intentional misrepresentation in the obtaining of a license;
or
(b) Misuse of a license, including lending or giving a license to another
person, or duplicating a license, or using a license with the intent to
unlawfully cause harm to a person or property; or
(c) The doing of an act or existence of a condition which would have been
grounds for the denial of the license by the sheriff; or
(d) The violation of any of the terms of this section; or
(e) The applicant is adjudicated guilty of or receives a withheld
judgment for a crime which would have disqualified him from initially
receiving a license.
(16) A person twenty-one (21) years of age or older issued a license to
carry a concealed weapon is exempt from any requirement to undergo a records
check at the time of purchase or transfer of a firearm from a federally
licensed firearms dealer. However, a temporary emergency license issued under
subsection (5) of this section shall not exempt the holder of the license from
any records check requirement. Temporary emergency licenses shall be easily
distinguishable from regular licenses.
(17) The attorney general is authorized to negotiate reciprocal agreements
with other states related to the recognition of licenses to carry concealed
weapons. The Idaho state police shall keep a copy and maintain a record of all
such agreements, which shall be made available to the public.
(18) The provisions of this section are hereby declared to be severable
and if any provision of this section or the application of such provision to
any person or circumstance is declared invalid for any reason, such
declaration shall not affect the validity of remaining portions of this
section.

Supertac45 · December 5th, 2007, 06:02 PM

Your good to go in Idaho as already stated. On your way Through Washington, stop and apply for a nonresident license. Very simple, and mine came on the 30th day from Spokane.

state6three8 · December 5th, 2007, 07:29 PM

Well, that just stinks about WA.

You could always open carry loaded... or carry it with you in the cab of your rig, just not loaded (have a mag in your pocket).

I hear it's because the states WA doesn't recognize is due to the lack of mental health background checks. WA checks your mental health background when other states do not. WA has a short list of reciprocity guests. I wish it was like the LEO bill, where you can carry in all 50 states. It sure is convenient when traveling.

Have a safe trip!

rmarkob · December 5th, 2007, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supertac45

Your good to go in Idaho as already stated. On your way Through Washington, stop and apply for a nonresident license. Very simple, and mine came on the 30th day from Spokane.

Oregon also has a very odd, restrictive, almost May Issue policy for non-resident permits, but only for WA, ID, CA, or NV residents. http://egov.oregon.gov/OSP/ID/chl.shtml

Quote:

Q: I am a Washington resident who has recently obtained a concealed weapons permit issued by the State of Washington. Is my permit valid to carry a concealed weapon while in the State of Oregon? If not, can a non-Oregon resident apply for a permit?
A: Oregon does not recognize concealed weapons permits from any other state. If you wish to review the law you can go to: http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/166.html and read 166.291. As you can see from ORS 166.291(8) which says "The county sheriff may waive the residency requirement in subsection (1)(c) of this section for a resident of a contiguous state who has a compelling business interest or other legitimate demonstrated need," the sheriff of each county has some discretion for a resident of a contiguous state. You would need to check with the sheriffs to see what their requirements are.

December 5th, 2007, 03:45 PM	#1
Griblik Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 108	OR CWP Carry in ID Hey all, I'm going to be traveling to Idaho in a couple days, and I'm wrestling with whether to carry on my trip or not. I'll be traveling through WA which does not honor OR's CWP, so it'll be unloaded and locked in the toolbox for that portion of the trip, but ID does honor OR's. I've finally gotten to the point of carrying most everywhere I go, and would really feel much better bringing one with me, but am only hestitant because I haven't really studied ID's laws on the matter like I have OR's. Don't want to do something that's legal here without even realizing it's illegal there. Does anyone have a good simple source for ID's carry laws I could review before I go, or ideally does anyone know of any major difference between OR and ID law that I should be aware of, or should I just bring my OC spray and my lucky hat and cross my fingers until I'm able to study the laws better? Thanks everybody..! __________________ "Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you." Glock 19 9mm - Taurus Tracker 627 .357 Magnum - Century Arms WASR-10 AK47 7.62x39 - Mossberg 500A 12 gauge - Savage Mark II .22LR Taurus UL 85 .38 Special - Bersa 83 .380ACP - Walther PPK .380ACP

December 5th, 2007, 03:48 PM	#2
JD Senior Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bedford County Virginia Posts: 8,886	You can look HERE for starters. Click on the link for firearms laws. __________________ Looking for something else to read? Check out the DefensiveCarry.com Blog Section Forum Customs & Courtesies Forum Usage: Tips and Tricks

December 5th, 2007, 04:10 PM	#3
Griblik Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 108	Thanks! JD, that was just what I needed. Looks like ID laws are nearly identical with very few exceptions. I'll be packin'..! Thanks for the fast info. __________________ "Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you." Glock 19 9mm - Taurus Tracker 627 .357 Magnum - Century Arms WASR-10 AK47 7.62x39 - Mossberg 500A 12 gauge - Savage Mark II .22LR Taurus UL 85 .38 Special - Bersa 83 .380ACP - Walther PPK .380ACP

December 5th, 2007, 04:23 PM	#4
JD Senior Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bedford County Virginia Posts: 8,886	Not a problem, enjoy your trip and stay safe. __________________ Looking for something else to read? Check out the DefensiveCarry.com Blog Section Forum Customs & Courtesies Forum Usage: Tips and Tricks

December 5th, 2007, 05:18 PM	#6
rathos Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 261	Are you sure Idaho honors Oregon's permit? Last time I checked on Oregon's website it said they did not honor anyones permit and theirs was not honored by anyone. __________________ ‘‘To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.’’ — George Mason

December 5th, 2007, 04:27 PM	#5
friesepferd Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: what used to be the state of Franklin (look it up) Posts: 1,719	read up on the laws bring ur gun

December 5th, 2007, 06:02 PM	#8
Supertac45 VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan's U.P. Posts: 2,952	Your good to go in Idaho as already stated. On your way Through Washington, stop and apply for a nonresident license. Very simple, and mine came on the 30th day from Spokane. __________________ Les Baer 45 Sig Man N.R.A. Patron Life Member M.C.R.G.O.

December 5th, 2007, 07:29 PM	#9
state6three8 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Washington State Posts: 102	Well, that just stinks about WA. You could always open carry loaded... or carry it with you in the cab of your rig, just not loaded (have a mag in your pocket). I hear it's because the states WA doesn't recognize is due to the lack of mental health background checks. WA checks your mental health background when other states do not. WA has a short list of reciprocity guests. I wish it was like the LEO bill, where you can carry in all 50 states. It sure is convenient when traveling. Have a safe trip!

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