North American International Auto Show

Kyle2986 · January 16th, 2008, 12:00 AM

Hi this is my first time posting even tho i have been hanging around for awhile. My question is i live in michigan and the auto show is here a Cobo Hall in Detroit and I am wandering if i can carry in there. Michigan law states that you can not carry in a entertainment facility that seats for than 2500 people, but in Cobo you don't sit you have to walk around, does that still apply? Any info will be helpful.

Thanks
Kyle

P95Carry · January 16th, 2008, 12:04 AM

Welcome Kyle .

You will better advice than from me but - can't help thinking ''seats'' - meaning butts on seats, is probably a very loose definition.

Large event - Detroit? Hmmm - somehow seems tricky!

mslaughtertx · January 16th, 2008, 12:07 AM

Contact the hall supporting the venue (or local PD). They will tell you for sure. Though keep in mind once you know you cannot claim ignorance

glock27mark · January 16th, 2008, 10:08 AM

welcome kyle. not sure on cobo. im sure youve looked at msp website,
entertainment places seating 2500+,but would that fall under sports
arena-stadium. not sure. you know security will be tight thought.
phone call would be helpful im sure. enjoythe show,been there many times
but havent been since ive been carrying.

FN1910 · January 16th, 2008, 10:59 AM

I love questions like this because they remind me of the agument between magazines and clips.

LEO - This place is off limits because it seats more than 2500

YOU - There aren't any seats becasue everyone is walking around.

LEO - I count over 800 cars in here.

YOU - What does that have to do with it?

LEO - Each car has an average of four seats so that makes 3200 seats.

I have no idea which way it goes but loopholes are wonderful.

airworthy · January 16th, 2008, 01:14 PM

I believe it applies no matter if the people are sitting or standing. I just went to the Birch Run Gun and Knife Show above Flint last weekend and they had a big sign in front of the ticket booth stating no CCW due to the seating. But most of the people there were walking. And these are pro-gun people so I would think if there was a sitting vs. standing loophole they would have found it.

jonesy_26 · January 16th, 2008, 01:35 PM

I think this one is off limits. If you park under Cobo, you can leave your gun in the car.

LenS · January 16th, 2008, 02:42 PM

If you have a state pro-gun assn, they are probably the best source of info for these types of questions.

Asking a LEO or the venue is more than likely going to get you an answer that is based on personal opinions, rather than law. BTDT

Sheldon J · January 16th, 2008, 07:32 PM

This has been converged before but not on this forrum so Try here... Michigan Gun Owners and to a search, on Carrying in COBO hall.

ellerblr · January 16th, 2008, 07:50 PM

I'm headed to the auto show this weekend too, and last year they even made us check in all pocket knifes. I think i remember them wanding us with metal detectors. Other than that, don't know. I would like to find definitively.

January 16th, 2008, 12:00 AM	#1
Kyle2986 New Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 1	North American International Auto Show Hi this is my first time posting even tho i have been hanging around for awhile. My question is i live in michigan and the auto show is here a Cobo Hall in Detroit and I am wandering if i can carry in there. Michigan law states that you can not carry in a entertainment facility that seats for than 2500 people, but in Cobo you don't sit you have to walk around, does that still apply? Any info will be helpful. Thanks Kyle

January 16th, 2008, 12:04 AM	#2
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,403	Welcome Kyle . You will better advice than from me but - can't help thinking ''seats'' - meaning butts on seats, is probably a very loose definition. Large event - Detroit? Hmmm - somehow seems tricky! __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

January 16th, 2008, 10:08 AM	#4
glock27mark Distinguished Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: s.e. mich Posts: 1,841	welcome kyle. not sure on cobo. im sure youve looked at msp website, entertainment places seating 2500+,but would that fall under sports arena-stadium. not sure. you know security will be tight thought. phone call would be helpful im sure. enjoythe show,been there many times but havent been since ive been carrying. __________________ {sheriff Buford T. Justice}what the h*** is the world coming too. NRA LIFE MEMBER

January 16th, 2008, 07:32 PM	#9
Sheldon J Distinguished Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Battle Creek, Mi. Posts: 1,686	This has been converged before but not on this forrum so Try here... Michigan Gun Owners and to a search, on Carrying in COBO hall. __________________ "The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century

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January 16th, 2008, 12:07 AM	#3
mslaughtertx Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: At Work Posts: 344	Contact the hall supporting the venue (or local PD). They will tell you for sure. Though keep in mind once you know you cannot claim ignorance

January 16th, 2008, 10:59 AM	#5
FN1910 Ex Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SC Posts: 1,236	I love questions like this because they remind me of the agument between magazines and clips. LEO - This place is off limits because it seats more than 2500 YOU - There aren't any seats becasue everyone is walking around. LEO - I count over 800 cars in here. YOU - What does that have to do with it? LEO - Each car has an average of four seats so that makes 3200 seats. I have no idea which way it goes but loopholes are wonderful.

January 16th, 2008, 01:14 PM	#6
airworthy Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lansing,Michigan Posts: 40	I believe it applies no matter if the people are sitting or standing. I just went to the Birch Run Gun and Knife Show above Flint last weekend and they had a big sign in front of the ticket booth stating no CCW due to the seating. But most of the people there were walking. And these are pro-gun people so I would think if there was a sitting vs. standing loophole they would have found it.

January 16th, 2008, 01:35 PM	#7
jonesy_26 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SE MI Posts: 256	I think this one is off limits. If you park under Cobo, you can leave your gun in the car.

January 16th, 2008, 02:42 PM	#8
LenS Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: US Posts: 1,348	If you have a state pro-gun assn, they are probably the best source of info for these types of questions. Asking a LEO or the venue is more than likely going to get you an answer that is based on personal opinions, rather than law. BTDT

January 16th, 2008, 07:50 PM	#10
ellerblr Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 90	I'm headed to the auto show this weekend too, and last year they even made us check in all pocket knifes. I think i remember them wanding us with metal detectors. Other than that, don't know. I would like to find definitively.