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Exactly, tangle. It only takes a fraction of a second to acquire both sights in good light. We should use the rear sight if time allows. In the Tom Cruise video, he point shot BG1 with one hand, but aimed with both hands on BG2, because he was already in position. But how dark is too dark to see the type of sights you have? How much time do you need to try to find both sights vs how much time do you have. What will happen to our focus and cone of vision under stress? At night, the eyes may not have the input strength the brain will give to the ears.
With situational awareness, threat identification and target acquisition are almost simultaneous, in the ideal case. I think front and rear night sights will be an advantage given the time and sensory control to employ them both. I'd still like the front to be as bright and big as possible. Any thoughts on when to turn the laser on?
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Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug |
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Normally I keep the gimmicks out of the bag of tricks...anything with batteries, etc. Interviews with Iraq servicemen, however, on leave, point out their dependence on AA battery stuff on the M4. They appreciate batteries, KA-Bar knives, shurefire lights, and socks more than grandma's chocolate chip goodies in their care pkgs. I'll use CT laser grips on my 1911 for training, but as you said, Chris, you can't see them in daylight, and they can be a dead giveaway at night if there is a hint of fog or smoke in the air. Normally, the switch will be off. When the maser switch is on, the pressure pad will activate them. In a showdown, I'm sure my grip pressure will activate the light whether I want or not. At extremely close range, I don't need the distraction. At long range (I've seen them on the trees across 1/2 mile lake) I'll be looking for cover or escape.
Trust your training, not your tools.
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Someone on another board has the XS Big Dot front and an Ameriglo Operator rear. I am going to do something similar and just stick with the Glock rear (non nite) sight and get an XS Big Dot.
They stated it is still very quick with the front site and they can still aim and group well at and past 15 yards.
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Location: FL
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The first time I heard of having just a tritium insert in the front sight and not the rear was in e-mail exchanges with one of the gunsmiths at Cylinder & Slide....he suggested I get this done on my Browning HP Mark II....I still haven't decided to do it or not.
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I prefer a night site up front with a plain black rear, but OTOH I hate three-dot sights.
It works well for me. It may not for you. |
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if we're talking close there are 2 things you want to see.
your front sight and the COM of your target. If you can see both you're good. Forget about everything else. AFS
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I have "experamented" with 1911's and ghost ring rear and nothing up front. Several years ago I had a "operator"tell me that some of them were using the ghost ring systems. (Front and rear.)I tried them and they were great for my applications. I fired almost 600rds.using rear only and it was effective. The thing that is the most important is to shoot the exact same way everytime to start with.Wrist,arm,torso,head,these have to be the same shot to shot for accuracy. With more practice you will find that the body does not have to be positioned the same everytime. For CCW applications(mine),with 7yds. normal and 15yds. considered long-very long,this system worked for me. One of my 1911's is still set up this way. With ghost ring rear only with tritium dots at 9 and 3 o'clock. If you want quick,this is quick.---------
Last edited by RSSZ; September 22nd, 2005 at 08:15 PM. |
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