Best State of CCW - Page 4

Bacon08 · February 29th, 2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SixBravo

If you're looking to goto school - as in a university - Utah would be your best bet with selected schools. They currently allow concealed carry on campus. From what I understand quite a few other states are working towards similar bills - including Arizona.

In Utah you can carry on any PUBLIC school campus. from grade school to a university. A private school has to have it posted at the front door that CCW are not permited. If it is not posted then you may carry it. from what I have learned BYU is the only school (because its private) that doesn't allow CCW or any weapons on campus.

CopperKnight · February 29th, 2008, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bacon08

In Utah you can carry on any PUBLIC school campus. from grade school to a university. A private school has to have it posted at the front door that CCW are not permited. If it is not posted then you may carry it. from what I have learned BYU is the only school (because its private) that doesn't allow CCW or any weapons on campus.

It may not be against Utah state laws, but you will probably run into Federal law troubles here.

Kerbouchard · February 29th, 2008, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CopperKnight

It may not be against Utah state laws, but you will probably run into Federal law troubles here.

Can you link a source? I was under the impression that no carry zones were established state by state, and in some cases city ordinances. I was unaware of a Federal statute, other than federal buildings.

Bacon08 · February 29th, 2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CopperKnight

It may not be against Utah state laws, but you will probably run into Federal law troubles here.

I don't know what the Federal laws are... anyone have a link?!?!?! It wouldn't make any sense to have conflicting lawssss even though i know it happens.

Bacon08 · February 29th, 2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BerneyG

Can you link a source? I was under the impression that no carry zones were established state by state, and in some cases city ordinances. I was unaware of a Federal statute, other than federal buildings.

Thats what I was told. but I'd rather be safe than sorry.. My father teaches the CCW permit class here in Utah and he says there isn't a federal law on it....

CopperKnight · February 29th, 2008, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bacon08

Thats what I was told. but I'd rather be safe than sorry.. My father teaches the CCW permit class here in Utah and he says there isn't a federal law on it....

I could be mistaken, but I'll check on it. Don't have time tonight, though. I'll dig up what I have.

CopperKnight · February 29th, 2008, 12:53 AM

OK, here's what I'm using. Please enlighten me if it has been changed or if it has sunseted:

http://www.gunlaws.com/Gun_Free_School_Zones_Act.pdf

Point 2(A) says you can't take a gun into a school zone (1000 feet from the grounds)

Point 2(B) are your exceptions, with 2(B)ii being your important exception.

Kerbouchard · February 29th, 2008, 01:08 AM

CopperKnight, I am fairly positive that the Fed Gun Free School Act only applies to K-12, and as you already noted, does not apply to permit holders. Therefore it would depend on your state laws...sadly, I cannot carry indoors in a school. I can walk the campus, and go all the way to the door, I just can't go inside or go see the baseball game.

CopperKnight · February 29th, 2008, 01:22 AM

Be sure to check the text carefully. I won't interpret, but check the exception in question:

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If the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtain such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license

Are you "licensed" to do so if this state "allows" your out of state permit? I honestly don't know if that counts.

Do all states (like Alaska where you don't need the paper license) do a background check before issuing that license? If they don't, your permit may not be a valid exception. I don't know if all states do this.

Sounds like nitpicking, but we all know how attorneys look through the details to make their case.

cdwolf · February 29th, 2008, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Biloxi Bersa

Those types of comments aren't true and they aren't necessary.

BTW, the correct two-letter abbreviation for states is both letters are capitalized without any punctuation.

February 29th, 2008, 12:53 AM	#37
CopperKnight Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Spokane area, WA Posts: 4,585	OK, here's what I'm using. Please enlighten me if it has been changed or if it has sunseted: http://www.gunlaws.com/Gun_Free_School_Zones_Act.pdf Point 2(A) says you can't take a gun into a school zone (1000 feet from the grounds) Point 2(B) are your exceptions, with 2(B)ii being your important exception. __________________ Being happy doesn't mean everything's perfect, but that you've decided to see beyond the imperfections. The only thing that stops bad guys with guns is good guys with guns. SgtD

February 29th, 2008, 01:08 AM	#38
Kerbouchard VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 2,531	CopperKnight, I am fairly positive that the Fed Gun Free School Act only applies to K-12, and as you already noted, does not apply to permit holders. Therefore it would depend on your state laws...sadly, I cannot carry indoors in a school. I can walk the campus, and go all the way to the door, I just can't go inside or go see the baseball game. __________________ Money can be lost or stolen, health and strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever. http://miscmusings.townhall.com/ Who is John Galt?

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