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Old September 16th, 2005, 12:42 PM   #11
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I remember back in the middle part of '96 just after TX passed CC, I was stopped on my M/C and presented my DL and CHL as required. LEO a little taken aback when presented with it, asked me where I was carrying and I stated small of back all the while keeping both my hands on the tank.
LEO admitted this was the first time he had encountered someone carrying and we started talking guns. By the end of the stop, he had messed around with and complimented my Kimber and my bike.
Handed my documents back and told me to have a nice day. Asked him why he stopped me in the first place and he looked at me and said that he couldn't remember.

All in all, any LEO encounters I have had have been positive ones.
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Old September 16th, 2005, 01:19 PM   #12
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Here in California, having a CCW could actually work to your advantage, though we're not required to inform LE, it lets them know that you must be one hell of an upstanding citizen or someone very importatant to actually get a CCW in California!
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Old September 16th, 2005, 01:27 PM   #13
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Cool Young Cops....

I've usually had the occasion to get stopped at one of those DUI/insurance checkpoints. I have my SCHTICK memorized: "Officer, it's my duty under Florida law to inform you that I have a Concealed Firearms Permit and I'm currently lawfully armed. I'm carrying a 45 strongside (right) hip. I'm keeping my hands on the wheel and awaiting instructions."

They usually reply with "Well that was smooth. Just keep your hands in plain sight and we're cool." Or sometimes they ask me to step from the car and lock my hands behind my neck while THEY draw my gun and hold it so we can talk about the business at hand. Thats cool as long as they're polite. They almost always are.

But ONE time, about five years ago, I tell this to a rookie just out of the academy and suddenly I'm staring muzzle to my nose at the business end of his Glock and then I focus on his finger which is ON the trigger and he's shaking like a leaf. Now I'm really scared. I can hear his older partner screaming at him to stop being a rookie IDIOT and put away his gun....But he ignores the veteran and orders me out of the car, to put my hands up and walk to the REAR (backwards) and I do this until I feel his barrel poking into my back. He takes the gun and "runs" it a dozen times hoping it's stolen all the time grilling me as to why I feel the need to carry a gun.

THAT was a long and interesting conversation. I asked him what year he graduated high school and he says something like 1996. So I sigh and whisper "it figures." He wants to know what I mean by THAT and so I hand him my business card and offer to discuss it over a friendly beer. He takes the card and exclaims: YOU'RE a firearms INSTRUCTOR? like he was speaking directly to Satan. I sighed again and told him the rest of the bad news: I also teach high school American History and American Government. I asked him what he made in those clases and he just handed me back my stuff and told me to "move along" as his partner apologized and said the "punk is why he's retiring at the end of the year..." Great. Another good cop leaves the force, while the Jack Booted Thugs start to take over...."

As I walk back to my vehicle, I look at the Rookie and I say: "In the future, PLEASE keep your finger OFF the trigger. You'll save your department MILLIONS of dollars." He just glares at me. I drive away, slowly.
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Old September 16th, 2005, 01:48 PM   #14
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That ExSoldier is precisely why I feel having to declare to an officer is just not a good idea. Most of the time it just doesn't matter at all and the rest of the time it creates situations like that one.
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Old September 16th, 2005, 02:44 PM   #15
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In PA if you get stopped by me and you declare your CCW status, while keeping your hands on the steering wheel, and remaining courteous; You most likely 99.999% not getting a citation or any drama. I will run my checks, I will thank you for informing me, I will advise you the reason of the stop, and you are on your way.

If I see your firearm accidently and I have not been informed of your CCW status, my actions and attiude will adjust accordingly and you may not like it very much. Self preservation kicks in and so will the drama.

It's your choice.
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Old September 17th, 2005, 09:04 AM   #16
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I'm in Fla. too.
My ccw has gotten me out of every speeding ticket I've been stopped for.
But the best was when a lady LEO chewed me out for NOT carrying. I mean really let go at me. She wanted me out there armed so if she ever needed backup I would be there to help. I got out of the ticket by promising to carry at all times. I've seen her since and she checks me to make sure I'm keeping my promise. How good is that?

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Old September 17th, 2005, 09:34 AM   #17
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You had a GREAT experience with your stop....Both you and the LEO exchanged positive and professional mannerism. I'm sure he appreciated your honest answers and he, in return, will remember you.
Makes for good positive PR with the CCW Folks out there.
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AFS - I'd like every cop, guy or gal - to be like that lady you mentioned.
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Talking Here's my take....

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Originally Posted by AirForceShooter
I'm in Fla. too.
My ccw has gotten me out of every speeding ticket I've been stopped for.
But the best was when a lady LEO chewed me out for NOT carrying. I mean really let go at me. She wanted me out there armed so if she ever needed backup I would be there to help. I got out of the ticket by promising to carry at all times. I've seen her since and she checks me to make sure I'm keeping my promise. How good is that?

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Let's put it this way....if you and she were single and unattached AND if she's a knockout...it'd be a match made in Heaven! At least that's my twisted thinking....
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