What if BG has a vest? - Page 2

ExSoldier · September 25th, 2005, 12:03 AM

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ExSoldier · September 25th, 2005, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by OD

In my opinion, it's not by shooting stationary targets. Get a cheap radio controlled car, inflate some balloons to the size of an average human head and tie them to the antenna. Have someone stand behind you operating the RC and drive it towards you, heads shots ain't nearly as easy as some would have you think.

I doubt the radio controlled car would last beyond the first couple of shots. Its a precision thing, but not THAT precise! I'll say it again, IDPA offers real world scenarios and a critique and SAFETY. And let's not forget the fellowship of like minded people. Friendship. Unlike IPSC which is the fantasy paradise of the unfettered race gun worth $5000 an IDPA gun has to remain stock. No comps allowed even. No rail lights for low light shooting courses. Gotta hold a surefire Harries style. No stage will have over an 18rd shot expenditure. It's revolver neutral.

OD · September 25th, 2005, 12:19 AM

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I doubt the radio controlled car would last beyond the first couple of shots.

Not if your shootin' at the car no, but that's not the point.

ExSoldier · September 25th, 2005, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OD

In my opinion, it's not by shooting stationary targets. Get a cheap radio controlled car, inflate some balloons to the size of an average human head and tie them to the antenna. Have someone stand behind you operating the RC and drive it towards you, heads shots ain't nearly as easy as some would have you think.

My IDPA club has a silouhette target mounted on wheels and attached to a rope. Buzzer sounds and a shooter designated will RUN to the rear pulling the target directly to the shooter, who must draw and engage two COM within 2 seconds. Most of the targets exhibit considerable POWDER BURNS. Glocks, Sigs and revolvers tend to do better. Care to guess why?

Shotgun Willie · September 25th, 2005, 12:25 AM

Good idea OD. I have actually seen that used for LEO sniper training in California for moving targets with a hostage. They use one or two balloons as hostages in one color and the BG as another color and the trainer would move around the course to simulate moving bodies. It gave the snipers a hard time to get the clean shot but it worked. The snipers loved it and said it gave them a different feel to their training that a stationary target couldn't give. I forgot all about that. Thanks for the idea.

Thanks for the link Ex. I will have to join after I get my gun.

ExSoldier · September 25th, 2005, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Shotgun Willie

Good idea OD. I have actually seen that used for LEO sniper training in California for moving targets with a hostage. They use one or two balloons as hostages in one color and the BG as another color and the trainer would move around the course to simulate moving bodies. It gave the snipers a hard time to get the clean shot but it worked. The snipers loved it and said it gave them a different feel to their training that a stationary target couldn't give. I forgot all about that. Thanks for the idea.

Thanks for the link Ex. I will have to join after I get my gun.

There is a HUGE difference between a trained sniper using a rifle with a long sight radius and a civilian with a CCW and a short(er) handgun barrel! It's possible that the passage of the bullet near the balloon would cause it to burst without actually hitting it. Better to use a target and measure your shot pattern (if any). But don't get me wrong...it'd be fun as long as it wasn't my rov.

OD · September 25th, 2005, 12:50 AM

Just give it a try.

ExSoldier · September 25th, 2005, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OD

Just give it a try.

Love to, but I can't. So I'll carry on in the fashion I have been.

Shotgun Willie · September 25th, 2005, 01:02 AM

Good point. It worth a shot if for nothing else then to have a little fun.

I have two RC's. One i got for Christmas and the other was the exact same model that was returned to the store because it didnt work so I talked the store manager into selling it to me for ten bucks. It was a two hundred dollar RC. My dad made a simple repair and now I have a second. So the long and short of all this is that worst case scenario I turn one into spare parts and it only cost ten bucks.

If I tie it on with about six feet of string that should give me about the right height for a head and if I still hit the RC then maybe I shouldn't be handling firearms.

ExSoldier · September 25th, 2005, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Shotgun Willie

If I tie it on with about six feet of string that should give me about the right height for a head and if I still hit the RC then maybe I shouldn't be handling firearms.

Careful! Make sure your backstop is the right height. If you're at all shooting high, it might send a rd OVER the backstop. This is an exercise that is very range (distance) driven (lol). In that situation
it's probably better to have it shorter, IMHO.

September 25th, 2005, 12:03 AM	#11
ExSoldier VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Coral Gables, FL Posts: 4,165	Shotgun: http://www.idpa.com Join and find a club that holds matches near you. I've been into IDPA since it's inception in fact, I fired the first live rounds in the first idpa sanctioned match held east of the Mississippi....oh so long ago. To commemorate the moment I ran the course with real JHP combat/defensive ammo. Most IDPA clubs are chock full of some shooter with real world experience: SWAT cops, feds, lawyers (!!), teachers, instructors, soldiers, you name it. I'm a certified SO (Safety Officer) for my club and I am so impressed with the skills of the group. I have NEVER DQ'd a regular shooter or club member for a safety violation. __________________ Former Infantry Captain; 20 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.

September 25th, 2005, 12:25 AM	#15
Shotgun Willie Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 158	Good idea OD. I have actually seen that used for LEO sniper training in California for moving targets with a hostage. They use one or two balloons as hostages in one color and the BG as another color and the trainer would move around the course to simulate moving bodies. It gave the snipers a hard time to get the clean shot but it worked. The snipers loved it and said it gave them a different feel to their training that a stationary target couldn't give. I forgot all about that. Thanks for the idea. Thanks for the link Ex. I will have to join after I get my gun. __________________ Kurt - Shotgun Willie

September 25th, 2005, 12:50 AM	#17
OD VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vatican City Posts: 2,652	Just give it a try. __________________ OD "Slow down, you'll get a more harmonious outcome...." -------------------------------------------- *"The pistol, learn it well, carry it always ..." - Jeff Cooper*

September 25th, 2005, 01:02 AM	#19
Shotgun Willie Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 158	Good point. It worth a shot if for nothing else then to have a little fun. I have two RC's. One i got for Christmas and the other was the exact same model that was returned to the store because it didnt work so I talked the store manager into selling it to me for ten bucks. It was a two hundred dollar RC. My dad made a simple repair and now I have a second. So the long and short of all this is that worst case scenario I turn one into spare parts and it only cost ten bucks. If I tie it on with about six feet of string that should give me about the right height for a head and if I still hit the RC then maybe I shouldn't be handling firearms. __________________ Kurt - Shotgun Willie

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