Carry and crutches...

Tom357 · September 27th, 2005, 11:45 AM

OK, folks. I'm back on a limited basis. My offices moved, this month, and I was responsible for the technology portion of the move, including relocating the call center.

Last Thursday evening, I broke my left leg. Hairline fracture of the tibia from the plateau at the knee down about 5". Don't know yet if I'm going to be in a cast or just a brace. I haven't been on crutches in about 27 years. Anyone out there have any advice on carry and crutches? It sure is awkward.

P95Carry · September 27th, 2005, 12:35 PM

Hey Tom - sorry to hear that. Hairline tho should not be too bad all being well and brace may suffice. What the heck were you doin' anyways?

If you do have to use crutches then, assuming you can still manage weight bearing without - probably stick to your usual carry method - and simply discard crutches to get into draw mode - or use them as weapons!!

How much do you think you will depend on the crutches? Doc given prognosis yet?

havegunjoe · September 27th, 2005, 02:33 PM

How about stapping your holster to one of the crutches?

Bumper · September 27th, 2005, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom357

OK, folks. I'm back on a limited basis. My offices moved, this month, and I was responsible for the technology portion of the move, including relocating the call center.

Darn, Tom, sounds like you have a job similar to mine, We just finished a move of 25 people this past weekend and have about 175 people moving into 80,000sf on Thanksgiving weekend. I also have responsibilities of moving the network, desktops and telephones. It's a big job.

Sorry to hear about the broken leg. I agree with Chris on using your normal carry method, but, on crutches, a shoulder holster might also be doable as long as it doesn't hug the armpit area too closely. The crutches could actually help conceal it and a movement toward the weapon would be somewhat rationalized to the BG as related to the crutches.....

gunthorp · September 27th, 2005, 10:54 PM

Sorry to hear it.

I've heard of sword canes and gun canes and the derringer that slides into your hand. (I'd like to do that with a P3-AT) But crutches? What would the doctor prescribe? Height adjustable and selective fire? Or cast carry, inside or out?

Bumper's idea may work, and if not, an inside the pocket rig for your BUG might be OK in a light jacket or sport coat.

Nothing like a disability to set us back into the flock, but I hope it's of very short duration.

Tom357 · October 1st, 2005, 06:01 PM

Thanks for the replies and suggestions. So far, it has been a moot point - I haven't left the house except for a doctor visit.

P95 - I was moving a rack of servers and hopped out of the bed of a pickup truck. Didn't even think about it. I just landed wrong, I guess. Stupid. The tibia split and wrecked my knee. I can't put any weight on the leg, yet, but the swelling is going down. Right now, if I have to drop crutches, I am relying on full-leg empty-leg, thanks to tai chi. I've lost my balance a couple of times and had to drop the injured leg, but that sucks and I do my best to avoid it.

Bumper - My move was 282 users and a 48-station call center - phones, faxes, PC's, printers and servers - into 135k sq ft. We did it in three phases. Worker downtime was 36-48 hours (2 workdays) while the cubes were disassembled, moved and reassembled. Server downtime was 4 hrs. The call center is a 7x24 hr operation and had to be moved uninterrupted. We had 7 weeks notice to plan the move and 5 weeks to demolish and rewire/repower the new space.

The idea of building a P3-AT into the grip of my crutches is intriguing. I'll consider the side-mount AA-12 after I do the rear-view mirrors.

P95Carry · October 1st, 2005, 07:47 PM

Tom - sounds like the simple manouver that just went wrong - I have done something slightly along same lines but no fracture - just a knee out of commission for a month - made driving real fun! Hope anyways recovery is swift - be all better with swelling gone - hope your cruciates did not come off too bad.

One thing - see - yet again - it's computers that screw us up!!

September 27th, 2005, 11:45 AM	#1
Tom357 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Richmond VA Posts: 671	Carry and crutches... OK, folks. I'm back on a limited basis. My offices moved, this month, and I was responsible for the technology portion of the move, including relocating the call center. Last Thursday evening, I broke my left leg. Hairline fracture of the tibia from the plateau at the knee down about 5". Don't know yet if I'm going to be in a cast or just a brace. I haven't been on crutches in about 27 years. Anyone out there have any advice on carry and crutches? It sure is awkward. __________________ - Tom You have the power to donate life.

September 27th, 2005, 12:35 PM	#2
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,339	Hey Tom - sorry to hear that. Hairline tho should not be too bad all being well and brace may suffice. What the heck were you doin' anyways? If you do have to use crutches then, assuming you can still manage weight bearing without - probably stick to your usual carry method - and simply discard crutches to get into draw mode - or use them as weapons!! How much do you think you will depend on the crutches? Doc given prognosis yet? __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

September 27th, 2005, 02:33 PM	#3
havegunjoe Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,688	Isn't Virginia an open carry state? How about stapping your holster to one of the crutches? __________________ DEMOCRACY IS TWO WOLVES AND A LAMB VOTING ON WHAT TO HAVE FOR LUNCH. LIBERTY IS A WELL ARMED LAMB CONTESTING THE VOTE. Certified Instructor for Minnesota Carry Permit NRA Pistol and Personal Protection Insrtuctor Utah Permit Certified Instructor

September 27th, 2005, 10:54 PM	#5
gunthorp Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Duluth MN Posts: 591	Sorry to hear it. I've heard of sword canes and gun canes and the derringer that slides into your hand. (I'd like to do that with a P3-AT) But crutches? What would the doctor prescribe? Height adjustable and selective fire? Or cast carry, inside or out? Bumper's idea may work, and if not, an inside the pocket rig for your BUG might be OK in a light jacket or sport coat. Nothing like a disability to set us back into the flock, but I hope it's of very short duration. __________________ Don't dither. The nick of time comes just before the moment lost.

October 1st, 2005, 06:01 PM	#6
Tom357 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Richmond VA Posts: 671	Thanks for the replies and suggestions. So far, it has been a moot point - I haven't left the house except for a doctor visit. P95 - I was moving a rack of servers and hopped out of the bed of a pickup truck. Didn't even think about it. I just landed wrong, I guess. Stupid. The tibia split and wrecked my knee. I can't put any weight on the leg, yet, but the swelling is going down. Right now, if I have to drop crutches, I am relying on full-leg empty-leg, thanks to tai chi. I've lost my balance a couple of times and had to drop the injured leg, but that sucks and I do my best to avoid it. Bumper - My move was 282 users and a 48-station call center - phones, faxes, PC's, printers and servers - into 135k sq ft. We did it in three phases. Worker downtime was 36-48 hours (2 workdays) while the cubes were disassembled, moved and reassembled. Server downtime was 4 hrs. The call center is a 7x24 hr operation and had to be moved uninterrupted. We had 7 weeks notice to plan the move and 5 weeks to demolish and rewire/repower the new space. The idea of building a P3-AT into the grip of my crutches is intriguing. I'll consider the side-mount AA-12 after I do the rear-view mirrors. __________________ - Tom You have the power to donate life.

October 1st, 2005, 07:47 PM	#7
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,339	Tom - sounds like the simple manouver that just went wrong - I have done something slightly along same lines but no fracture - just a knee out of commission for a month - made driving real fun! Hope anyways recovery is swift - be all better with swelling gone - hope your cruciates did not come off too bad. One thing - see - yet again - it's computers that screw us up!! __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

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