More FL good decisions it seems - Page 2

P95Carry · October 1st, 2005, 07:44 PM

LM73 - hard to know - that does bring up a good point.

Maybe some inquiries thru AG - certainly some clarification needed by sound of it.

sarhog · October 1st, 2005, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMarshall73

Currently, firearms are not permitted on school grounds, or within 1000 feet of school grounds.

I'm curious as to your reference to the "1000 feet from school grounds" law. I can't find any language like that in the Florida statutes.
Thanks,

LMarshall73 · October 3rd, 2005, 12:02 AM

It could be one of those urban legend deals, but I swear my CCW instructor mentioned it. I have the FL Firearms Laws book, but I'm too lazy to look it up right now, maybe later. Anyway, I remember the fecal matter nearly hit the rotating oscillator a while back when some, uh hum, individual suggested that the 1000' rule should apply to residences where children are home schooled as well. Ended with the legislature said a big "don't think so."

tanksoldier · October 3rd, 2005, 01:08 AM

From the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services Licencing Division, which quotes the relevant Florida law. It precludes carry in "school administration buildings", "any elementary or secondary school facility" and "any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms". Google definitions defines "facility" as "a building or place that provides a particular service or is used for a particular industry; 'the assembly plant is an enormous facility'"... not sure if a parking lot would count or not. Any chance you could ask the principal for permission to keep the firearm in your car? Permission might make it a moot point.

790.06(12) - No license issued pursuant to this section shall authorize any person to carry a concealed weapon or firearm into any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05; any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station; any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom; any polling place; any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district; any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof; any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms; any school administration building; any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose; any elementary or secondary school facility; any area vocational-technical center; any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile; inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law. Any person who willfully violates any provision of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s 775.082 or s. 775.083.

Bud White · October 3rd, 2005, 08:12 AM

I hope it passes and then starts passing in other States.. Right now there working on getting a Castle Doc passed here Antis are throwing a Fit

Miggy · October 3rd, 2005, 10:54 AM

I think the 1000 feet rule was thrown away but don't quote me on this.

XD40 · October 3rd, 2005, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by older gunner

The new law is a major step forward for common sense and 2nd Amend. rights. Hurrah for the Fla. Legislature.
Now the crap is starting. The Brady bunch is passing out flyers at airports warning tourists that nervous Floridians can shoot them. I've never even thought about shooting anyone-------but those liars surely do tempt a man.

The Brady Bunch has gone so far as to place ads in major newspapers (London, New York, Dtroit etc) stating that is is now OK for a Floridian to shot you just for arguing and warning them they will not be safe if vacationing in Florida. Truth is, crime has been dropping here for 13 consecutive years and that may be because of our gun laws. This attempt at economic blackmail represent a new escalation of the anti-gun battle. The local Florida Today ran an editorial this weekend echoing the Brady sentiments. What a POS, if it wasnt the ONLY newspaper I can get delivered every morning, I would drop it (gotta read the funnies).

LMarshall73 · October 3rd, 2005, 10:39 PM

So far, I have managed to get completely pissed at every local news broadcast discussing the proposed bill. So far, they're only focussing on workplace violence, not the right to self defense while commuting to and from work. They've even run a lead in that included "Bring your gun to work day". Then again, John Gibson (Fox News) did give the Brady folks a bit of credibility a week or so ago by mentioning the new FL law and recommending that people evacuating from Rita or relocating from Katrina take the new law into consideration before coming to Florida...

tanksoldier · October 4th, 2005, 01:54 AM

Forgot to mention this, and I'm happy the Castle Doctrine got expanded in Florida, but Colorado has no duty to retreat either... and hasn't at least since 2003, maybe longer (I'm a Colorado transplant from the PRKalifornia).

If anyone runs across those Brady types could you ask them to mention Colorado as well as Florida? Shorter lift lines in Vail would be a good thing.

Tangle · October 4th, 2005, 07:26 AM

IIRC, the 1000 foot thing is a Federal law.

October 1st, 2005, 07:44 PM	#11
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,339	LM73 - hard to know - that does bring up a good point. Maybe some inquiries thru AG - certainly some clarification needed by sound of it. __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

October 3rd, 2005, 01:08 AM	#14
tanksoldier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,130	From the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services Licencing Division, which quotes the relevant Florida law. It precludes carry in "school administration buildings", "any elementary or secondary school facility" and "any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms". Google definitions defines "facility" as "a building or place that provides a particular service or is used for a particular industry; 'the assembly plant is an enormous facility'"... not sure if a parking lot would count or not. Any chance you could ask the principal for permission to keep the firearm in your car? Permission might make it a moot point. 790.06(12) - No license issued pursuant to this section shall authorize any person to carry a concealed weapon or firearm into any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05; any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station; any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom; any polling place; any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district; any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof; any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms; any school administration building; any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose; any elementary or secondary school facility; any area vocational-technical center; any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile; inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law. Any person who willfully violates any provision of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s 775.082 or s. 775.083. __________________ "I am a Soldier. I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight." GEN George S. Patton, Jr. "Drive fast and eat cheese!"

October 3rd, 2005, 10:54 AM	#16
Miggy VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Miami-Dade, FL Posts: 4,119	I think the 1000 feet rule was thrown away but don't quote me on this. __________________ You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming. Randy Cain. GunFreeZone.net

October 4th, 2005, 01:54 AM	#19
tanksoldier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,130	Forgot to mention this, and I'm happy the Castle Doctrine got expanded in Florida, but Colorado has no duty to retreat either... and hasn't at least since 2003, maybe longer (I'm a Colorado transplant from the PRKalifornia). If anyone runs across those Brady types could you ask them to mention Colorado as well as Florida? Shorter lift lines in Vail would be a good thing. __________________ "I am a Soldier. I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight." GEN George S. Patton, Jr. "Drive fast and eat cheese!"

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October 3rd, 2005, 12:02 AM	#13
LMarshall73 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South East US Posts: 191	It could be one of those urban legend deals, but I swear my CCW instructor mentioned it. I have the FL Firearms Laws book, but I'm too lazy to look it up right now, maybe later. Anyway, I remember the fecal matter nearly hit the rotating oscillator a while back when some, uh hum, individual suggested that the 1000' rule should apply to residences where children are home schooled as well. Ended with the legislature said a big "don't think so."

October 3rd, 2005, 08:12 AM	#15
Bud White VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 17,476	I hope it passes and then starts passing in other States.. Right now there working on getting a Castle Doc passed here Antis are throwing a Fit

October 3rd, 2005, 10:39 PM	#18
LMarshall73 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South East US Posts: 191	So far, I have managed to get completely pissed at every local news broadcast discussing the proposed bill. So far, they're only focussing on workplace violence, not the right to self defense while commuting to and from work. They've even run a lead in that included "Bring your gun to work day". Then again, John Gibson (Fox News) did give the Brady folks a bit of credibility a week or so ago by mentioning the new FL law and recommending that people evacuating from Rita or relocating from Katrina take the new law into consideration before coming to Florida...

October 4th, 2005, 07:26 AM	#20
Tangle Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chattanooga Posts: 5,231	IIRC, the 1000 foot thing is a Federal law.