Breaking news! GA Concealed Carry Expanded - Page 6

mrhutch · April 5th, 2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mzmtg

Kennesaw Mountain National Battlefield Park is still off limits under federal regs.

d'oh!

by "off limits", does that still qualify as under DNR control, where you can only be arrested for criminal trespass if you are caught with a gun and then refuse to leave? cause if so, i'll take the risk, and will be willing to leave if necessary. haven't seen a ranger in that park in the 2 years i've been going, and they don't exactly do strip searches at the gate.

if not, then $#!+.

mzmtg · April 6th, 2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mrhutch

d'oh!

by "off limits", does that still qualify as under DNR control, where you can only be arrested for criminal trespass if you are caught with a gun and then refuse to leave? cause if so, i'll take the risk, and will be willing to leave if necessary. haven't seen a ranger in that park in the 2 years i've been going, and they don't exactly do strip searches at the gate.

if not, then $#!+.

NO, it is a federal felony to carry at Kennesaw Mountain, same as any other National Park...for now.

This AJC article from last week explains how it will go down: http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/polit...y_be_allowed_to.html

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Why you soon may be allowed to carry concealed at Kennesaw Mountain
Thursday, April 3, 2008, 04:06 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Friday is about to become a very big payday for gun rights advocates.

Here’s the deal:

Two bills will move, not one. H.B. 257, which now permits those with concealed weapons permits to carry in restaurants and on rail and bus systems, is but one chunk.

H.B. 89 will also move. This measure will carry the watered-down, guns-in-parking-lots language that the Senate, National Rifle Association and the Georgia Chamber of Commerce have wrestled with for two sessions, plus other goodies for the NRA.

Right now, chances of passage for both must be rated very good. Opposition is scarce. Joe Fleming, lobbyist for the Georgia chamber, says his group will be focused H.B. 89, to make sure the parking lots language doesn’t change.

Whether restaurant groups, MARTA and other transit systems raise objections — and raise them quickly enough — will determine whether H.B. 257 has tough sledding.

When it leaves a House-Senate conference committee tomorrow, H.B. 89 will be significantly changed. The parking-lot language, stripped out by the House, will be restored.

The language redefining “public gatherings” where firearms remain prohibited has been abandoned. You will not be permitted to carry a concealed weapon into church.

But the bill will:

— Require expedited treatment for concealed weapons permits by the probate court judges who issue them;

— Relax state restrictions on where firearms can be stored in vehicles;

— Make “straw” purchases of firearms illegal — a way of prohibiting lawsuits of the type filed by New York against gun dealers in Georgia, alleging they are sources for weapons that flow into states where buying a gun is much more difficult or time-consuming.

— And it will allow licensed concealed weapons to be carried in state parks and historical sites.

This last part is important, and here’s why:

U.S. Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne has said his department would suggest new regulations by the end of this month that would amount to the biggest relaxation of gun-toting rules in federal parks in more than a century.

Basically, he said that concealed weapons would be permitted — if the U.S. parks are located in states that permit carrying in their parks. So passage of H.B. 89 would insure that, someday soon, visitors to Kennesaw National Battlefield Park and the federal Chattahoochee River park would also be able to carry concealed.

Forget all that stuff about concealed concealed concealed in the article. Open carry is still allowed with a GFL.

mrhutch · April 6th, 2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mzmtg

Forget all that stuff about concealed concealed concealed in the article. Open carry is still allowed with a GFL.

now i'm just confused. so with a permit i can OPEN carry on kennesaw, or it's a felony to carry at all?

Miggy · April 6th, 2008, 01:32 PM

Yes 87.15%
No 12.85%

Good Going Georgia!

JrHawk · April 6th, 2008, 02:20 PM

I just voted on the AJC poll. Also took the time to send a quick vote of thanks to Sen Douglas and Rep Bearden. And of course thanks to GCO for continuing to carry the flag for all of us!

mzmtg · April 6th, 2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mrhutch

now i'm just confused. so with a permit i can OPEN carry on kennesaw, or it's a felony to carry at all?

Right now it is a felony to carry at Kennesaw Mountain in any way.

AFTER the Georgia law goes into effect (July 1) and AFTER the new federal regs go into effect (who knows when that will be)...THEN you can carry at Kennesaw Mountain any way you want.

mrhutch · April 6th, 2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mzmtg

Right now it is a felony to carry at Kennesaw Mountain in any way.

AFTER the Georgia law goes into effect (July 1) and AFTER the new federal regs go into effect (who knows when that will be)...THEN you can carry at Kennesaw Mountain any way you want.

ok, thanks. gotcha.

OC ftw

at least until the good bill passes :)

mzmtg · May 14th, 2008, 03:16 PM

Gov. Perdue signs HB89!

tns0038 · May 14th, 2008, 03:25 PM

at this time teh poll

Yes 87.73% 5928
No 12.27% 829

We visit family in Georgia.

T Bone · May 14th, 2008, 05:05 PM

How does the law differentiate between bars and restaurants? Just curious, as many States use differing methods for this.

Congrats tp Georgia residents on a big win!

April 6th, 2008, 01:32 PM	#54
Miggy VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Miami-Dade, FL Posts: 3,926	Yes 87.15% No 12.85% Good Going Georgia! __________________ You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming. Randy Cain. GunFreeZone.net

May 14th, 2008, 03:16 PM	#58
mzmtg Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Acworth, GA Posts: 466	Gov. Perdue signs HB89! __________________ GeorgiaCarry.Org Member

May 14th, 2008, 05:05 PM	#60
T Bone Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Metropolitan Detroit Posts: 296	How does the law differentiate between bars and restaurants? Just curious, as many States use differing methods for this. Congrats tp Georgia residents on a big win! __________________ Regards, T Bone. "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Benjamin Franklin

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April 6th, 2008, 02:20 PM	#55
JrHawk Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 77	I just voted on the AJC poll. Also took the time to send a quick vote of thanks to Sen Douglas and Rep Bearden. And of course thanks to GCO for continuing to carry the flag for all of us!

May 14th, 2008, 03:25 PM	#59
tns0038 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 921	at this time teh poll Yes 87.73% 5928 No 12.27% 829 We visit family in Georgia.