Condition 0, 1, Etc.? - Page 3

jmsstnr · May 10th, 2008, 10:53 PM

gl,

Perhaps, the following may help as well.

Jeff Cooper's Commentaries

McPatrickClan · May 11th, 2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob The Great

On the subject of the OP, I've always thought about the various conditions as applying to any gun, but I have slightly different definitions.

Condition 0: The only step necessary to fire the gun is pulling the trigger.
Condition 1: To fire, you must first disengage a manual safety in a separate motion from pulling the trigger.
Condition 2: To fire, you must first cock the hammer in a separate motion from pulling the trigger.
Condition 3: To fire, you must first load a round into the chamber by manipulating the action in some way.
Condition 4: Completely unloaded

So an XD pistol (grip safety- no other safety controls) with one in the chamber would be condition zero, correct? Is it considered prudent to carry at condition zero?

Kerbouchard · May 11th, 2008, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by McPatrickClan

So an XD pistol (grip safety- no other safety controls) with one in the chamber would be condition zero, correct? Is it considered prudent to carry at condition zero?

Yes, and Yes, depending on the pistol.

The XD has a heavy trigger pull, a grip safety, a trigger safety, and a striker safety. The gun is NOT going to go off unless you pull the trigger. Carry with a proper holster that covers your trigger guard.

Carry without one in the chamber if you feel you need to, but rack the slide so the gun would be 'ready to fire'. If it ever goes 'click' all by itself you will know you were right not to carry with one chambered. After a while, I believe your question will be answered.

Balsac · May 11th, 2008, 02:47 AM

I carry in condition -1...

McPatrickClan · May 11th, 2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Balsac

I carry in condition -1...

OK, I'll bite, what is that?

Bob The Great · May 11th, 2008, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balsac

I carry in condition -1...

already fired?

romorris · May 11th, 2008, 12:17 PM

or condition .5 with my glock... :)

May 11th, 2008, 02:47 AM	#24
Balsac Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North Miami, FL Posts: 159	I carry in condition -1... __________________ "Life is like a box of chocolate... You never know who you are going to shoot." my flickr photo page

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May 10th, 2008, 10:53 PM	#21
jmsstnr Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: A=(pi)200mi.^sq Posts: 103	gl, Perhaps, the following may help as well. Jeff Cooper's Commentaries

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romorris New Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: FL Posts: 3	or condition .5 with my glock... :)