nativenyerintexas

They just don't understand events like this could have been prevented.

YouTube - Penn and Teller - Suzanna's Gun Encounter Story

And don't tell the gun grabbers that the laws don't work:

YouTube - Penn and Teller - Gun Free Zones

YouTube - Rosie on Gun Control

In the infamous word of Charlton Heston:

YouTube - From my cold dead hands!

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It is to be observed that Right of Self-Defence, arises directly and immediately from the Care of our own Preservation, which Nature recommends to every one. . . , and that this right is so primary, that it cannot be denied on the basis that it is not "expressly set forth.

--- Hugo Grotius

DMan

Lets face it, Liberals just can't win against facts! Thats why they don't care about facts, and choose to look at the world through emotions and fiction.

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If guns cause crime, then forks made Rosie O'Donnell fat!!

Rosie - Say bye bye: You aren't much of a View anymore! Your true colors have been shown, and they are not Red, White, and Blue!

Cakewalk

Emotion is much more powerful than logic. You can scare a person into doing something faster and easier than you can convince them with sound reasoning.

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archer51

How dare you try to cloud the issue with facts!!!!
For the most part , if someone is of the mindset that guns are bad you are not going to change their opinion. I used to go through the arguments whenever I would go home to visit. My parants were both of the mindset that there was no reason for anyone to have a assualt weapon they believed what they saw on TV. AR's, SKS and AK's spewing hundreds of rounds with one pull of the trigger. The argument that these weapons are "semi automatics" and only 1 round is fired per trigger pull did not phase them. The fact that fully automatic weapons are highly regulated and required a special permit to own and that there have been no know attacked by a legally owned fully auto never phased them.
My brother is even worse. He is now a retired Illinois LEO. As far as he was concerned there was no reason for anyone other than LEO to own a gun. He freaked out the first time he saw me carrying.
I no longer even discuss anything that has to do with guns with them. I have learned over the years that discussing it with a brick wall is just as affective as trying to change their minds. The same holds true with 99% of all anti's.

Kerbouchard

I will give my standard answer on these threads...

What makes you think that you can change an opinion reached,
not by logic, facts or statistics, but by emotion,
with logic, facts or statistics?

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Money can be lost or stolen, health and strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever.

http://miscmusings.townhall.com/

Who is John Galt?

JohnKelly

Instead of focusing on how many deaths were caused by guns, focus on how many lives have been saved by guns.

2.5 million instances per year of a gun being used (though rarely fired) in the defense of a crime. Of that number, how many lives would have been lost if there was no access to a personal defense firearm? Naturally, we can never know for sure, but if even 10% if the instances would have otherwise resulted in death of the victim that is 250,000 lives saved. Other statistics (drowning, falling, etc.) pale in comparison to that number.

If they still want to focus on death instead of lives saved, fine..... gun control KILLS. The last estimate I saw of the number of lives lost worldwide to gun control - cases where a government enacts gun control and then some time later starts exterminating its own citizens -was around 100 million.

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JimmyC4

I always try to "size up" folks in conversation. If I find them to possess some open-mindedness I'll engage in a discussion. If in conversation it looks like they base their opinions on emotion I avoid the subject, since it only serves to frustrate me and does nothing to enlighten them.

It scares me that those educating our children are among the most liberal.

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Cakewalk

Want to ruin a liberal's day? Cite historical fact.

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Captain Crunch

"Infamous" only to the anti-gun crowd.

To us, it's gospel.

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