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Old May 14th, 2008, 07:29 AM   #11
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I would never carry SOB for all of the reasons already stated
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Old May 14th, 2008, 07:45 AM   #12
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I personally like SOB style. I guess I am odd in the fact that I can drive that way. I actually carry more in the 5 o'clock area to keep it off my spine. Yes you do need to learn to draw that way as not to sweep yourself or others. Problem is most ranges won't let you do it and you need to practice with a friend and an unloaded gun. Sending you a PM.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 08:54 AM   #13
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As stated before, its more of a retention issue than anything for me. I try my darnedest to be aware all the time, but it would just add something else to think about that I don't need.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 09:44 AM   #14
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It really is no more of a discussion than wearing a seatbelt- ie, there are no documented cases where wearing a seatbelt has caused a fatality that I am aware of (with 17 years EMS/MedSurg/hospital care). Use of the seatbelt has demonstrably saved lives.

There are, however, numerous instances of permanent disability and serious injury from LE, fire and EMS personnel carrying a variety of tools MOB.

There is a difference between Middle of the Back, and Small of the Back. Small of the back generally refers to around a 5 o'clock position. With a heavy weapon and/or poor holster, one may induce sciatica (sciatic nerve damage), but it is not inherently unsafe.

MOB, straight 6 o'clock carry, is right inline with Mexican carrying a Glock with 3.5# connector, not wearing your seatbelt, not using PPE on multiple "one-nighters" etc., etc. One won't see an immediate problem; however, it will likely catch up to one.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 10:05 AM   #15
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I have one SOB holster, for me it worked somewhat well. I didn't wear it at 6 o'clock, but closer to 5 as noted above.

Again, as noted above, it was not comfortable when seated for long periods of time, and I spend a lot of time in the car.

Concealment was an issue at times.

I just get better results all around from an IWB or OWB @ 3 o'clock or just behind the point of the hip.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 10:07 AM   #16
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Hmmm...I'd be interested to actually SEE some stats on spinal injuries from carrying SOB. I haven't found any, myself. But then again, I may just not be looking hard enough.
Also, it seems to me that someone could stop your draw or take your gun from an OWB at 3:00 or 4:00 just as easily as they could with an SOB holster.
I see this discussion pop up every once in a while and I've always wanted to give my 2¢. So, there ya go.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 11:06 AM   #17
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Old May 14th, 2008, 11:58 AM   #18
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I've been carrying my XD45 Compact at SOB (IWB at 6:00) for about 8 months now. I find it to be relatively comfortable even when driving or sitting. In fact, over the holidays we drove to visit family 12-14 hours each way. My XD stayed in that position the vast majority of the trip. Currently, I'm using a $15 Uncle Mike's, left-hand, IWB holster. (I have a K&D holster on order.) I tried carrying at 3:00, but I’m a big guy (read overweight) and that caused some major printing on me. Plus, to carry at 3:00, I would have to restock the majority of my wardrobe. Regardless of where you shop, that can be expensive.

However, I can see the points most of you are making. The 3:00 position allows quicker and easier access. I am currently in the process of trying to lose weight. If I am successful enough, I hope to reward myself with a good 3:00 holster. How you carry is as much a personal decision as is what you carry.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 12:36 PM   #19
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Done it on an off occasionally (more often in some time periods) for about 20 years. Like other methods, it's an option.

My preferred SOB carry is about 7:00 (I'm left handed) in a vertical IWB (1911 or Glock). Grip points toward strong side, so the draw is palm out, and the weapon isn't over the spine. I have no problem drawing without sweeping anything but the ground/floor, and also have no trouble driving that way (wouldn't be my choice for extended road trip, but an hour or less is fine).

I do have a Galco SOB for my Glock 19, and find I don't prefer that method nearly as much.

I also use other methods: Shoulder holster (semi-frequent), off body carry (less frequent, various methods) OWB and IWB (most common for me these days IWB).

You may find over time that different modes of carry may benefit in certain circumstances/situations. It is a good idea to get some exposure to many, so your choice will be an informed one, and you will have options as needed.

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Old May 14th, 2008, 12:43 PM   #20
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Hmmm...I'd be interested to actually SEE some stats on spinal injuries from carrying SOB. I haven't found any, myself. But then again, I may just not be looking hard enough.
We got national workmens' comp stats when I was working EMS, as well as through the Fire union. Those were state/profession specific; your state workmens' comp office should have something you can peruse, but it may not be the most user-friendly format. The summation in KS was,"don't place gear in your crack." A Maglight is just as hard as a 1911.
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