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Old May 13th, 2008, 11:30 PM   #1
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Feelings about SOB carry...

I have seen the SOB, small of back, method of carry criticised more than a few times. I know the main issue to most people is the chance of injuring yourself if you were to fall on your back while carrying, that aside what are the other reasons? I carry a HK USP compact and for me that is the best way to conceal, it lends itself quite well to any way I'm dressed, be it shorts, or pants. Just interested in the other members thoughts on the subject.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 11:52 PM   #2
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I think there's a possibility of sweeping yourself (and other non-targets) with the muzzle if you don't have a properly designed SOB holster.

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Old May 14th, 2008, 12:09 AM   #3
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A very ackward position for carry, concealment, and presentation. IMO, unsafe and uncomfortable. To each his own of course. If it works for you good on you.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 12:14 AM   #4
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You need to really practice your draw so that you do not muzzle sweep yourself.
You need to draw your firearm from the holster (index finger off the trigger) and then point the muzzle toward the ground and slightly back - twist your wrist & come around your body & then up to a normal presentation.
Safely reholstering really takes a lot of thoughtful and careful practice.
It can be done with good practice - just like anything else.
Bending down tends to flash the firearm.
Going to see a 3 hour movie gets downright uncomfortable.
Don't go to the movies and watch Ben Hur carrying Small Of Back.
But, I do know people who carry SOB and they seem to like it.

I have carried SOB sporadically in the past but, have not carried SOB for years. Luckily I've not fallen over backward since I was 2 years old or younger.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 12:23 AM   #5
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What else? You mean that the chance of severe spinal injury, paralysis etc isn't enough?
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Old May 14th, 2008, 12:27 AM   #6
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I personally think this method of carry is poor at best.

I can see that for certain undercover operations this holster might be beneficial but for the most part, it really isn't a good form of carry especially since there are much better ones available.

But... someone keeps buying those darn holsters!
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Old May 14th, 2008, 01:58 AM   #7
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SOB carry is very uncomfortable riding in a car or sitting in any chair.
More importantly, it also puts the gun out of your sight and immediate control. Someone could come up behind you and take your gun away or stop your attempt to draw and conveniently already have your arm twisted behind your back.

In my mind, it is the worst of choices.

I agree that there would be times when SOB would be the best choice but not for most civilian CC'ers. Every mode of carry has its own use in special circumstances.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 02:27 AM   #8
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If you are real skinny and young and flexible and if you don't mind taking the chance of getting your spine crunched , go for it.

Now if you are old and overweight, The arm just doesn't make it back there so well. Besides with all the spinal injuries I already have I wouldn't do it.

One doesn't have to fall on your back, you could be thrown on your back.
examples are thrown from horse, Car accident, motorcycle accident, boating accident, weirdo just walks up and coldcocks you from out of knowhere.

There are just to many possibilities to take the chance.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 03:14 AM   #9
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I've done S.O.B. occasionally----not out in public, just around the house. It's rather quick, easy, and comfortable depending on activities. I use a leather IWB clip holster for that. I actually prefer the left hand over the right hand as it's more natural for me to draw that way.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 07:17 AM   #10
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for me, spending the rest of my life paralyzed is a pretty compelling argument in and of itself.

Or at the least, a herniated or ruptured disc followed by a couple of back surgeries and then chronic back pain and maybe a funny walk the rest of your life.

For years a lot of us EMS folks used to carry a 5 or 6 cell maglight flashlight in just that position. Slid in under our belts at the small of our backs.

One night on the job, I slipped on some oil or something, lost my balance and fell over backwards up against something and immediately had a numbing and shooting pain run down my leg clear to my toes. My leg and butt cheek was numb for about 15 minutes. That was before MRI's but they did do a CT scan and a myelogram. I was lucky I didn't cause any permanent damage.

If you've never experienced a myelogram, good! It's not a pleasant experience.

I wised up real quick after that.

Also for all the reasons QKShooter states has me convinced it's not a mode of carry for me to utilize. It does look cool when people draw from them in the movies. Not great muzzle discipline though.

Have you tried moving it over your kidney area instead of your spine? Fleshy muscle area is much safer than directly over the spine, and peeing blood for a week or so with a bruised kidney is much more desirable than a wheelchair or cane for life.

YMMV
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