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Location: Brevard County, FL
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Location: Central Florida
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I admit, I'm guilty. My weak side has always been, well, weak..... and I don't work hard enough to overcome that weakness.
I carry a delica, but it's clipped to my right rear pocket, unless I'm pocket carrying my Seecamp back there, then it's in the front. Is it too late for a New Year's resolution? I'm gonna start carrying it on my weak side starting today......and practicing deploying it from there too. I'm not so concerned about someone grabbing my arm, but in a weapon retention struggle or in case of some disability to the strong side it just makes sense to be able to quickly access something from the weak side. Good post......and thanks for the proverbial !![]() |
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Location: OKC, OK
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Some of the replies have been...interesting. To be honest, 1) unless she has trained and is fit, it's very unlikely the average woman will reflexively and effectively break the grip of a modestly fit man;
2) some of what has been addressed is socialized denial. Having had people intentionally try to do me permanent, close & personal harm on two occassions, personally, I had no doubt as to their intentions immediately prior (why I was able to pre-empt). If you have training, if you have mindset, you will know. If it's something talked about with shooting/wrestling buddies, but not a way of life, the attacker will be ahead of one's OODA, as one will be stuck in,"Is he really...? Is my response appropriate...?" 3) Grabbing the strong-side arm is an immediate indicator of dominance. Period. If the person grabbing is an officer, seeing the weak-side go back into uncontrolled territory will generally cause them to break off so they can engage their weapon (or if unarmed to avoid assault). "Escalation" of force is inappropriate, as one is already far behind. Pulling away, grasping (not necessarily drawing one's weapon immediately) and snapping, "Get the *** off!" is all the warning needed. If the agressor attempts to pull in for greater control, and makes no clear identifying statement, it's a free-for-all. Yes, weak-side/center-line carry is to be recommended. ![]() |
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![]() Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lower Slobovia
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Strong side: Boker Kalashnikov Auto.
Weak side: Ka-Bar Little Finn (My weak side is uncoordinated as heck, so I don't use a folder there). I carry a SP101 in a crossdraw holster (I drive about 800 miles a week). It can be drawn with either hand. I'm around large sums of cash quite often, and usually alone. |
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Location: Connecticut
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I think this is more of a training issue than a hardware issue.
The fact he has one of his hands on your arm grabbing you means 1/2 of his upper body's defensive capibility is occupied, while you still have 2/3 of your able to act: the other arm and head-butts. Garb the right arm, please...pull it towards you, so it can be followed in with a headbutt that comes from the legs and torso as an opener, then follow on with whatever comes out. That's also completely discounting any stomps to the ankle, knees to the groin or thigh, groin grabs.... If you have, or can access a weapon from your weak side, great; however, if you don't have that gun or knife, you can still do significant damage, especially in close. Also be aware that while your weak hand is attempting to access your weapon, you probably aren't attacking your attacker's vision or balance which puts him in the position of having momentum of the situation in his favor. The best thing to do attack upon contact. An arm grab is an attack to your mid-line, so go low with stomps and kicks and high with your weak hand & head to his throat & eyes. If you are going to access a weapon weak side, do it while the attacker is distracted and not able to jam YOUR weapon access. As I said, I feel this is more of a training issue, not a hardware issue. |
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Location: College Station
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For Dr. CMG
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Location: USA
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The Case for Weak-Sided Tools:
They allow you to cut, bludgeon, or shoot someone off of you with a weapon produced from your weak side, with either hand. I happen to be a fan of them. I am not a fan of guns in the role, however, as in my experience people have problems defending pistols split to each side of their center line. Pocket guns are the exception to this problem, however, in my experience expectiations of accessing them in a struggle are optimistic. As I type this, I've a push dagger, a flashlight, a pen, and a magazine which could serve the role nicely.
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Location: PA
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I have my weak side weapon on me more then my gun. Restrictions limit my ability of being able to CCW. I carry a SOG Flash II and have for more then 8 years.
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#39 |
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Senior Member
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Location: Nashville
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my P3AT is weak side, as well as a second SOG folder
If I cant shoot 'em...I'll cut 'em
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Location: Amarillo, Texas
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very good observation Lima
I started carrying my remington knife clipped in my left front pocket, it has 2 protruding surfaces that are designed to help opening the blade but they'll make dang good impact points on someone's temple, neck, jaw, etc ![]() also a good case for H2H training for everyone
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