4 days at FrontSight Nevada - Page 3

T Bone · May 21st, 2008, 08:49 PM

Well, now you're going to get into the whole politics of the thing (or not!). The Dr. has laid out a lot of plans for the place, many of which have not yet (may not ever, then again, who knows?) materialized.

As for the certificates, as I understand it, most (all?) of them can only be used for your first ever course. Can't get another and go back for more training (as I understand it).

On holsters, sounds like they seriously want the straight drop (I can understand that). My leather Galco Training holster OWB should handle that just fine (I hate putting my 1911's in Kydex

).

Thanks for answering the questions guys!

jarhead45 · May 21st, 2008, 08:57 PM

ya its a ton of marketing BS.. that is why I did not drink the kool aid just yet. Looking at a membership now, figuring in the 2-3 years for the condos and airstrip .. if that gets off the ground then memberships could go up considerably. But I am still working the numbers. I just hate the hard sell ... no matter how much truth it is or how much sense it makes.. I am just a hard head I guess and I do not like to be sold on anything. Just look at what salesmanship did to the housing market. Scuse me if I am a little cautious at this time. But none the less .... Politically .. they are dead on and I could not believe in there cause more than they themselves do. I think on politics alone they are head and shoulders above all the others. They are firm believers in the 2nd... good enough for me.. oops was that the sound of me drinking kool aid.

rmarkob · May 21st, 2008, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarhead45

The glock guys have to remember to "trip the trigger" when setting up the various failures or they get a fault.

Can you please explain what this means? I have a G19, and I don't know what "trip the trigger" means.

Slim_45 · May 21st, 2008, 09:15 PM

Man sounds like a good time to me

I would love to go

HowardCohodas · May 21st, 2008, 09:16 PM

Not all certificates are "first course" only. There are over a dozen different certificates denoted by the color of paper used. I have one "first course" and one "any course" certificate. Looking forward to going.

Questions:
Any M&P's there? If so, how did they perform? I have a CT Lasergrip on my 45. Should it be removed before the class?

I normaly carry in a SmartCarry. I have a Blade-Tech as well. Is any instruction available to improve my performance using the SmartCarry?

Thanks for the good write-up.

AZ Husker · May 21st, 2008, 09:53 PM

Those promises have been made for years. The training may be good, but the long term promises are bunk.

Shotdown · May 21st, 2008, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmarkob

Can you please explain what this means? I have a G19, and I don't know what "trip the trigger" means.

With an unloaded weapon, press the trigger so that it "uncocked".

Shotdown · May 21st, 2008, 10:09 PM

If I were to retire in Las Vegas then I would definitely purchase a life time membership. I would sell all the extra certificates I receive and make my money back.

Update:
I just looked at the FS website and noticed that their lifetime membership prices went up by a lot. I remember them preaching $2000 for the Legacy plus a free handgun and certificates for your family every year. Now the Patriot (lowest) lifetime membership costs $4900.

Golden Dragon · May 21st, 2008, 11:56 PM

Thanks for the information

tns0038 · May 22nd, 2008, 07:52 AM

Thanks for a GREAT report.

Some people are opening such a place within 100 miles of my house, and they offered LEO’s and former LEO’s, membership to use the range, and discounts on classes. I’ve already sent in my application.

In Federal and state qualifying test you’re allowed 3-seconds for two shots, and 7 seconds for five shots from concealed. They also have 10 shots from two clips within 10 seconds.

But, dropping the draw fire to 1.5 seconds; OH boy ????…. I’ll never pass!

May 21st, 2008, 08:49 PM	#21
T Bone Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Metropolitan Detroit Posts: 470	Well, now you're going to get into the whole politics of the thing (or not!). The Dr. has laid out a lot of plans for the place, many of which have not yet (may not ever, then again, who knows?) materialized. As for the certificates, as I understand it, most (all?) of them can only be used for your first ever course. Can't get another and go back for more training (as I understand it). On holsters, sounds like they seriously want the straight drop (I can understand that). My leather Galco Training holster OWB should handle that just fine (I hate putting my 1911's in Kydex ). Thanks for answering the questions guys! __________________ Regards, T Bone. "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Benjamin Franklin

May 21st, 2008, 08:57 PM	#22
jarhead45 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 180	ya its a ton of marketing BS.. that is why I did not drink the kool aid just yet. Looking at a membership now, figuring in the 2-3 years for the condos and airstrip .. if that gets off the ground then memberships could go up considerably. But I am still working the numbers. I just hate the hard sell ... no matter how much truth it is or how much sense it makes.. I am just a hard head I guess and I do not like to be sold on anything. Just look at what salesmanship did to the housing market. Scuse me if I am a little cautious at this time. But none the less .... Politically .. they are dead on and I could not believe in there cause more than they themselves do. I think on politics alone they are head and shoulders above all the others. They are firm believers in the 2nd... good enough for me.. oops was that the sound of me drinking kool aid. __________________ Honor, Courage, Virtue. These are what makes a man. "The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps." Eleanor Roosevelt, 1945

May 21st, 2008, 09:15 PM	#24
Slim_45 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: michigan Posts: 451	Man sounds like a good time to me I would love to go __________________ The first 3 simple rules of gun safety 1. Keep your finger off the trigger. 2. Keep your d* finger off the trigger. 3. Keep your d* finger off the d*** trigger.

May 21st, 2008, 09:16 PM	#25
HowardCohodas Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canton, OH Posts: 549	Not all certificates are "first course" only. There are over a dozen different certificates denoted by the color of paper used. I have one "first course" and one "any course" certificate. Looking forward to going. Questions: Any M&P's there? If so, how did they perform? I have a CT Lasergrip on my 45. Should it be removed before the class? I normaly carry in a SmartCarry. I have a Blade-Tech as well. Is any instruction available to improve my performance using the SmartCarry? Thanks for the good write-up. __________________ Howard *I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop!!* M&P 45fs with Crimson Trace LaserGrip plus a 14-round spare mag in a SmartCarry holster LCP (waiting for release of LG-431) M&P 45c (Hoping Crimson Trace will come through)

May 21st, 2008, 09:53 PM	#26
AZ Husker Distinguished Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,981	Those promises have been made for years. The training may be good, but the long term promises are bunk. __________________ Treat me good, I'll treat you better. Treat me bad, I'll treat you worse.

May 21st, 2008, 10:09 PM	#28
Shotdown Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 107	If I were to retire in Las Vegas then I would definitely purchase a life time membership. I would sell all the extra certificates I receive and make my money back. Update: I just looked at the FS website and noticed that their lifetime membership prices went up by a lot. I remember them preaching $2000 for the Legacy plus a free handgun and certificates for your family every year. Now the Patriot (lowest) lifetime membership costs $4900. Last edited by Shotdown; May 21st, 2008 at 10:16 PM. Reason: Update

May 21st, 2008, 11:56 PM	#29
Golden Dragon Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 39	Thanks for the information __________________ SASS LIFE LEAA BOLD#252 NRA LIFE RO I & II

May 22nd, 2008, 07:52 AM	#30
tns0038 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,072	Thanks for a GREAT report. Some people are opening such a place within 100 miles of my house, and they offered LEO’s and former LEO’s, membership to use the range, and discounts on classes. I’ve already sent in my application. In Federal and state qualifying test you’re allowed 3-seconds for two shots, and 7 seconds for five shots from concealed. They also have 10 shots from two clips within 10 seconds. But, dropping the draw fire to 1.5 seconds; OH boy ????…. I’ll never pass!

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