Would you shoot? - Page 5

papanewguinea · June 16th, 2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Naturalstate

I would venture to say the greater percentage of us would hand him his death certificate. First things first... make sure your attorney is a 2 ammendment expert and also pro-gun carry. Nothing we can do much about that eventual jury. (this is of in the event you have an unfriendly States Attorney.) Now lets say we have 20/20 after the fact and all facts are in...

Your private attorney bills for the criminal end of things and civil attorney from his estate come down on you in the amount of $500,000.00 (1/2 million) your home has to be sold and all possessions to pay for your legal bills... your family has turned against you due to these events..divorce etc etc..
Would you still shoot the man? ????????

I can't help thinking that if you'd given this skuzbag the one-way ticket to eternity that he so richly deserved, you'd be very unlikely to be sued (at least in Texas).

In any other state, your legal fund would be so overwhelmed with donations, that you could pay your legal fees and still have $10 million left over for these folks

I'd donate $100, no hesitation.

4my son · June 16th, 2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Naturalstate

I would venture to say the greater percentage of us would hand him his death certificate. First things first... make sure your attorney is a 2 ammendment expert and also pro-gun carry. Nothing we can do much about that eventual jury. (this is of in the event you have an unfriendly States Attorney.) Now lets say we have 20/20 after the fact and all facts are in...

Your private attorney bills for the criminal end of things and civil attorney from his estate come down on you in the amount of $500,000.00 (1/2 million) your home has to be sold and all possessions to pay for your legal bills... your family has turned against you due to these events..divorce etc etc..
Would you still shoot the man? ????????

If in this pretty much cut and dry case, if I shot this

and got prossicuted for it, then as a country, we have already lost.

CR2008 · June 16th, 2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bline

Guess I posted this in the wrong place last time. So I'll post with a question.

Turlock man kills child in roadside beating

Given the details would you have tried to restrain the guy first or gone strait for the use of deadly force? Personally I'd warn him to stop and if he didn't and I had a clear shot I'd shoot. Interested to hear other opinons.

I would NOT fight him off, I would stay away from him to ensure he does not have the opportunity to wrestle my gun from me when I draw it, and I would give him one loud warning before using deadly force (when there is a clear shot.)

In my state, it's legal to use deadly force to stop a forcible felony and so I will not stand by a let him take an innocent life, and I certainly won't go try holding him only to have my face beaten in, stabbed etc.

papanewguinea · June 16th, 2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CR2008

I would NOT fight him off, I would stay away from him to ensure he does not have the opportunity to wrestle my gun from me when I draw it, and I would give him one loud warning before using deadly force (when there is a clear shot.)

In my state, it's legal to use deadly force to stop a forcible felony and so I will not stand by a let him take an innocent life, and I certainly won't go try holding him only to have my face beaten in, stabbed etc.

I feel more and more sick, the more I think of this. I believe in the sancity of life and will do all that I can to preserve it. I don't want to kill anyone. But we're 'hard-wired' to protect children. Seeing an adult man hammering the life - literally! - out of a defenceless baby is so ... repugnant, that I really don't think he'd get a warning.

I'd still be aiming and dry firing into his corpse, when the cop would be gently taking my pistol out of my hand and saying, 'he's gone, Sir...he's gone ...'

CR2008 · June 16th, 2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by papanewguinea

I feel more and more sick, the more I think of this. I believe in the sancity of life and will do all that I can to preserve it. I don't want to kill anyone. But we're 'hard-wired' to protect children. Seeing an adult man hammering the life - literally! - out of a defenceless baby is so ... repugnant, that I really don't think he'd get a warning.

I'd still be aiming and dry firing into his corpse, when the cop would be gently taking my pistol out of my hand and saying, 'he's gone, Sir...he's gone ...'

And the way how I personally look on issues involving the use of deadly force, it's not me who killed the attacker, but the attacker who forced the hand of that person, it's not personal at all.

I wander what set off this clown to want to hurt a little baby like that? Probably he snapped from all the crying, probably he could not be the father the child needed... Any community that has laws preventing the effective defence of the most helpless in sociaty (babies, mentally ill, disabled, elderly etc) is not a place worth living in because they ARE enablers of these violent acts and their claim of respecting life (but not defending it) is only a perversion that mocks the natural order of the universe... every single animal and plant as a self defence mechanism but these politicians who make law preventing people from defending themselves and others go against everything that is true.

Malazan · June 16th, 2008, 05:40 PM

I thought about this, this morning after I read it. Hell yeah I'd have shot him. I wouldn't have said nothing to him before hand either. And if I didn't have my gun on me at the time for what ever reason, I would have shoved my knife into the base of his skull.

Dirtbag got off easy.

preachertim · June 16th, 2008, 05:49 PM

hate to sound all spiritual but the bible says to offend one of these little one s it is better to have a stone hung around your neck and thrown to the bottom of the Ocean. What s a few more hydra shocks at the bottom of the Ocean.

dunndw · June 16th, 2008, 05:55 PM

I would have shot to end the threat to that poor child.
whatever it took

Thumper · June 16th, 2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by preachertim

Whats a few more hydra shocks at the bottom of the Ocean?

Now that right there is funny!

Janq · June 16th, 2008, 06:12 PM

No, I would not shoot him.

At least not as a first effort.
This is a case for pepper spray.
If that is not available then pop ones trunk and grab the crowbar or a jack handle of a heavy solid object or a tree branch or a big rock and brain the guy.

Now if he turns out to be a terminator and has a titanium skull then yeah, I'd shoot at him.

- Janq

June 16th, 2008, 05:40 PM	#46
Malazan Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 51	I thought about this, this morning after I read it. Hell yeah I'd have shot him. I wouldn't have said nothing to him before hand either. And if I didn't have my gun on me at the time for what ever reason, I would have shoved my knife into the base of his skull. Dirtbag got off easy. __________________ "Islam is not your friend" Last edited by Captain Crunch; June 17th, 2008 at 12:41 AM. Reason: Deleted a language workaround.

June 16th, 2008, 05:55 PM	#48
dunndw Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nashville Posts: 781	I would have shot to end the threat to that poor child. whatever it took __________________ "If I was an extremist, our founding fathers would all be extremists," he said. "Without them, we wouldn't have our independence. We'd be a disarmed British system of feudal subjectivity." My Gun Truths Blog The Tennessee Firearms Association

June 16th, 2008, 06:12 PM	#50
Janq VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,575	No, I would not shoot him. At least not as a first effort. This is a case for pepper spray. If that is not available then pop ones trunk and grab the crowbar or a jack handle of a heavy solid object or a tree branch or a big rock and brain the guy. Now if he turns out to be a terminator and has a titanium skull then yeah, I'd shoot at him. - Janq __________________ "Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy Monday, March 12, 2007 -- Op Ed -- The Washington Post

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June 16th, 2008, 05:49 PM	#47
preachertim Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 143	hate to sound all spiritual but the bible says to offend one of these little one s it is better to have a stone hung around your neck and thrown to the bottom of the Ocean. What s a few more hydra shocks at the bottom of the Ocean.