Would you shoot? - Page 7

KevinDooley · June 16th, 2008, 10:17 PM

Janq, I gotta ask... are you a parent? Because I would like to think anyone who is a parent would do what they already know to be the proper response... and shoot this SOB dead. Sure, I'd command him to stop as I drew down on him. And he has the time it takes for my 1911 to clear the holster and the safety to come off to comply. After that, the child is safe and the a-hole is done for.

sui-juris · June 16th, 2008, 10:23 PM

I'd tell him to stop while drawn on him then fire if no stoppage.

Ten_Ring · June 16th, 2008, 10:25 PM

"STOP NOW OR I WILL SHOOT" ANY movement other than complete compliance will result in shots going down range.

OKTribalCop · June 16th, 2008, 10:35 PM

Take a life to save a life! 1 warning!

Rustynuts · June 16th, 2008, 10:47 PM

With a toddler there would be no warning. Even one hit from an adult could easily kill. Why give the the BG one more chance to land a blow with a simple warning?

cl00bie · June 16th, 2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Paco

Rocks, sticks, whatever has to be done at that point needs to be done. I still can't see how the people there couldn't simply rush the guy and stomp, I mean stop him from doing this, just baffling.

It could probably have been stunned disbelief. The mind does funny things when confronted with something that horrific.

64zebra · June 16th, 2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MattLarson

I have to respectfully but firmly disagree.

The lethal attack is in progress. Delaying decisive action to go find a suitable impact weapon seems to me to be a way of guaranteeing a failed rescue attempt.

If it were a stabbing or an active shooter, you wouldn't be thinking pepper spray or a club, right?

A full grown adult stomping a toddler is no less an imminent lethal threat than one stabbing or shooting one, IMHO.

Matt

+1
state laws may vary on some details, but....
this isn't the time for less than lethal rounds, tazer, peppr spray, or impact weapon, the guy is presenting a deadly threat (since he's stomping on a baby) and at a minimum serious bodily injury
perfectly justifiable in Texas to use deadly force and I hope it is everywhere else
I hope satan has fun with him

cl00bie · June 16th, 2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Naturalstate

Your private attorney bills for the criminal end of things and civil attorney from his estate come down on you in the amount of $500,000.00 (1/2 million) your home has to be sold and all possessions to pay for your legal bills... your family has turned against you due to these events..divorce etc etc..
Would you still shoot the man? ????????

Yes. Without hesitation. It's only money and my financial partner (my wife) would concur.

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Originally Posted by CR2008

I wander what set off this clown to want to hurt a little baby like that? Probably he snapped from all the crying, probably he could not be the father the child needed...

My guess is that when the details come out it'll be determined that the man was not the father of the child, but the momma's live-in boyfriend.

CR2008 · June 16th, 2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rustynuts

With a toddler there would be no warning. Even one hit from an adult could easily kill. Why give the the BG one more chance to land a blow with a simple warning?

You're very right... it takes nothing to kill a baby... you could shake a baby to death... so why would any reasonable person give this maniac more time to do even more damage? Quick actions count, hesitation does not.

jeep45238 · June 16th, 2008, 11:38 PM

Immediate shoot. Defense of life in Ohio, yours or others. No requirement to warn, although I would warn him with a very very loud crack of gunfire.

A grown man beating on an infant is an immediate threat on life.

June 16th, 2008, 10:23 PM	#62
sui-juris Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: MI Posts: 418	I'd tell him to stop while drawn on him then fire if no stoppage. __________________ " Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master." George Washington

June 16th, 2008, 10:25 PM	#63
Ten_Ring Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Washington County Alabama Posts: 122	"STOP NOW OR I WILL SHOOT" ANY movement other than complete compliance will result in shots going down range. __________________ http://www.odmp.org/ Defensor Fortis Tutor et Ultor Aduentes Fortuna Juvat Libertatem Defendimus

June 16th, 2008, 11:38 PM	#70
jeep45238 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 573	Immediate shoot. Defense of life in Ohio, yours or others. No requirement to warn, although I would warn him with a very very loud crack of gunfire. A grown man beating on an infant is an immediate threat on life. __________________ ~Mike F. http://www.ConcealedCampus.com http://www.a-human-right.com/ "Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."

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June 16th, 2008, 10:17 PM	#61
KevinDooley Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 223	Janq, I gotta ask... are you a parent? Because I would like to think anyone who is a parent would do what they already know to be the proper response... and shoot this SOB dead. Sure, I'd command him to stop as I drew down on him. And he has the time it takes for my 1911 to clear the holster and the safety to come off to comply. After that, the child is safe and the a-hole is done for.

June 16th, 2008, 10:35 PM	#64
OKTribalCop New Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1	Take a life to save a life! 1 warning!

June 16th, 2008, 10:47 PM	#65
Rustynuts Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 522	With a toddler there would be no warning. Even one hit from an adult could easily kill. Why give the the BG one more chance to land a blow with a simple warning?