Brady Campaigns list of CCW holder crimes - Page 3

mcp1810 · June 20th, 2008, 12:44 AM

They really should have someone check their facts.
Can anyone find Prince William county Maryland on a map for me?
Oh, wait..... There is none!
There is a Prince George's county in Maryland but the closest Prince William county is in Virginia.
Oh, sorry, I forgot, we are talking about the Brady Bunch here and to them "Facts" dont seem to matter.

Zach and Holly · June 20th, 2008, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyboyLDB

Most of these would have still shot their victim(s) whether they had a CCW or not. Fight with the neighbors - get the gun from the house. Wife giving you a hard time - get the gun from the house or just plan in advance. For some, the CCW just kept them from an arrest should a LEO happen up on them carrying - i.e., they would have carried regardless of being approved or denied a CCW. So after reading these, I would say 85-90% were not initially "law abiding" - they were just working the system. Yes there are some morons in the mix on the list - but it is not a perfect world - hence the need for a CCW.

Exactly...any of the crimes mentioned have nothing to do with CCW except that "CCW" is what they're going after. If someone wants to walk into a hospital and shoot nurses (this is the first time he's decided to kill someone), having his CCW makes no difference! The entire report is a scare tactic, and important aspects are left out like another CHL holder using a gun to diffuse a hostile situation.

rdoggsilva · June 20th, 2008, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bandit383

Wished they would also post the protection and/or saves due to CCW or armed during home invasions.

Rick

That they will never do that. It would make them look the part of bigger lairs and hypocrites that they are.

CR2008 · June 20th, 2008, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bandit383

Wished they would also post the protection and/or saves due to CCW or armed during home invasions.

Rick

Yea right... from an organization that uses JUNK stats with gang bangers, drug dealers, junkies and suicides as "victims of gun violence."

NYCMedic · June 20th, 2008, 04:30 AM

I only read a few of the "crimes", but how does one, "fatally shot his neighbor four or more times?" Do you shoot them to death, resuscitate them, shoot them to death, resuscitate them, and repeat?
Also, is anyone familiar with a, ".38 caliber fully automatic weapon"? Not that those are the biggest flaws in their logic, but I found them entertaining.

MNBurl · June 20th, 2008, 07:35 AM

Minnesota provides carry permit holder stats (every year) with who was convicted of crimes like DWI and others. It turns out we are 25 times LESS LIKELY to commit crimes

Wow what a concept!

Breakdaddy · June 20th, 2008, 09:46 AM

Thanks for the link. I feel dirty pointing my web browser to a brady campaign URL though.

press1280 · June 20th, 2008, 09:57 AM

I counted 96 for a 10 year period. That's low even IF IT ALL HAPPENED IN 1 STATE, NOT THE WHOLE COUNTRY!
And some of those were for carrying in "gun free zones," not a real crime IMO.
Idiots at Brady............

agentmel · June 20th, 2008, 10:16 AM

In reading the list, did anyone else notice this?

Just because something is a "crime" doesn't mean its wrong.
Carrying a gun into an airport? A "crime" but not wrong.
Carrying a gun on campus? A "crime" but not wrong.
Unlawful transportation of a firearm? A "crime" but not wrong.

Also, there is a huge difference between a person with an outstanding warrant and a convicted felon. Obviously, the Brady bunch wants to take away our rights without due process as evidenced by the gray box on page 3.

Mel

Free American · June 20th, 2008, 03:58 PM

I wonder in those 12 years how many people with drivers licenses commited a crime with a vehicle??

June 20th, 2008, 12:44 AM	#21
mcp1810 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,007	They really should have someone check their facts. Can anyone find Prince William county Maryland on a map for me? Oh, wait..... There is none! There is a Prince George's county in Maryland but the closest Prince William county is in Virginia. Oh, sorry, I forgot, we are talking about the Brady Bunch here and to them "Facts" dont seem to matter. __________________ "And what would you do with your brain if you had one?" - Dorothy

June 20th, 2008, 04:30 AM	#25
NYCMedic Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New York Posts: 126	I only read a few of the "crimes", but how does one, "fatally shot his neighbor four or more times?" Do you shoot them to death, resuscitate them, shoot them to death, resuscitate them, and repeat? Also, is anyone familiar with a, ".38 caliber fully automatic weapon"? Not that those are the biggest flaws in their logic, but I found them entertaining. __________________ Bleeding-heart reporter: “Do you feel that violence begets violence?” Jeff Cooper: “It is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure - and in some cases I have - that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more than he can enjoy."

June 20th, 2008, 07:35 AM	#26
MNBurl Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,782	Minnesota provides carry permit holder stats (every year) with who was convicted of crimes like DWI and others. It turns out we are 25 times LESS LIKELY to commit crimes Wow what a concept! __________________ MNBurl Side Guard Holsters "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking" - George S. Patton.

June 20th, 2008, 09:46 AM	#27
Breakdaddy Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 226	Thanks for the link. I feel dirty pointing my web browser to a brady campaign URL though. __________________ Daily Carry- XD45 or XDM

June 20th, 2008, 09:57 AM	#28
press1280 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: WV Posts: 273	I counted 96 for a 10 year period. That's low even IF IT ALL HAPPENED IN 1 STATE, NOT THE WHOLE COUNTRY! And some of those were for carrying in "gun free zones," not a real crime IMO. Idiots at Brady............ __________________ Everybody's got a game plan until they get hit

June 20th, 2008, 10:16 AM	#29
agentmel Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: FL Posts: 244	In reading the list, did anyone else notice this? Just because something is a "crime" doesn't mean its wrong. Carrying a gun into an airport? A "crime" but not wrong. Carrying a gun on campus? A "crime" but not wrong. Unlawful transportation of a firearm? A "crime" but not wrong. Also, there is a huge difference between a person with an outstanding warrant and a convicted felon. Obviously, the Brady bunch wants to take away our rights without due process as evidenced by the gray box on page 3. Mel __________________ "I am suspicious of all the things that the average citizen believes." - H. L. Mencken "Any government that employs three million people, most of them armed to the teeth, ought to be distrusted to an enormous degree." - Lew Rockwell

June 20th, 2008, 03:58 PM	#30
Free American Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 594	I wonder in those 12 years how many people with drivers licenses commited a crime with a vehicle?? __________________ They who give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin Previously known as "cjm5874"

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