Brady Campaigns list of CCW holder crimes

bal_g23 · June 19th, 2008, 07:57 PM

http://www.bradycenter.org/xshare/pd...s-misdeeds.pdf

A good few sound like they could be justified, but Im having a hard to justifying some of them. But note that none say the outcome of the event and if the CCW holder was charged or not.

JD · June 19th, 2008, 08:00 PM

From 1996 to 2008 and that's it?

I'd say that makes a pretty good case for us. I'd like to see how many Brady campaign members were arrested in that time frame.

Hopyard · June 19th, 2008, 08:02 PM

Texas' DPS by law must keep statistics on the crimes committed by CHL holders and post them as compared to crimes committed by the general public.

It is eye opening.

We are such good scouts; really.

I'll look them up and try to get back and post some examples.

Well, I couldn't find the statistics I was looking for; but here's a clue:
IN August of 2007 there were 288,000 Texas CHL licenses active.

During that year, less than 500 licenses were suspended and less than 500 revoked.
The stats could include such things as not reporting an address change and the belated discovery of a background issue.

I have to assume that anyone caught doing a real crime would have their license revoked. So, maybe 500 people out of nearly 300,000 did something wrong, tops.

I'll look for the other stats some more later; my wife wants me to wash the kitchen floor and I can't continue.

Still haven't done the kitchen and wife is fuming:

Offense
Total Convictions in Texas for CHL holders in 2006

140 0.2275%

Here's the URL and a table tabulating the specific crimes and conviction rates of CHL license holders v general populous.

Texas DPS - Conviction Rates Reports

JD · June 19th, 2008, 08:06 PM

Going by a quick skim, since 1996, less than 100 listed.

FOR SHAME!

DMan · June 19th, 2008, 08:16 PM

In 12 years less than 100 "crimes and misdeeds" can be reported. This includes accidental discharges, and "oops, I left my gun in my carry on luggage" type stories. Granted there are some valid violent crimes, and I am sorry to read these, but in the end, in 12 years, this really isn't anything to be spooked over!

tabsr · June 19th, 2008, 08:17 PM

And how many elected politicians in the same time period?

CAJUN600 · June 19th, 2008, 08:23 PM

Hmmmmmmmm

Eagleks · June 19th, 2008, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabsr

And how many elected politicians in the same time period?

The hard drive would not be big enough to store all of those names and crimes.

TacticalCompact · June 19th, 2008, 08:55 PM

I find it amusing how they list people who were "charged" with a crime. They fail to mention whether or not these people were ever convicted.

bandit383 · June 19th, 2008, 08:59 PM

Wished they would also post the protection and/or saves due to CCW or armed during home invasions.

Rick

June 19th, 2008, 07:57 PM	#1
bal_g23 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Washington State Posts: 91	Brady Campaigns list of CCW holder crimes http://www.bradycenter.org/xshare/pd...s-misdeeds.pdf A good few sound like they could be justified, but Im having a hard to justifying some of them. But note that none say the outcome of the event and if the CCW holder was charged or not. __________________ GUN CONTROL IS USING BOTH HANDS I believe its a shoulder thing that goes up - Carolyn McCarthy (D)

June 19th, 2008, 08:00 PM	#2
JD Senior Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bedford County Virginia Posts: 7,973	From 1996 to 2008 and that's it? I'd say that makes a pretty good case for us. I'd like to see how many Brady campaign members were arrested in that time frame. __________________ *BLARG!* My DefCarry Blog.

June 19th, 2008, 08:02 PM	#3
Hopyard Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: College Station Posts: 908	Texas' DPS by law must keep statistics on the crimes committed by CHL holders and post them as compared to crimes committed by the general public. It is eye opening. We are such good scouts; really. I'll look them up and try to get back and post some examples. Well, I couldn't find the statistics I was looking for; but here's a clue: IN August of 2007 there were 288,000 Texas CHL licenses active. During that year, less than 500 licenses were suspended and less than 500 revoked. The stats could include such things as not reporting an address change and the belated discovery of a background issue. I have to assume that anyone caught doing a real crime would have their license revoked. So, maybe 500 people out of nearly 300,000 did something wrong, tops. I'll look for the other stats some more later; my wife wants me to wash the kitchen floor and I can't continue. Still haven't done the kitchen and wife is fuming: Offense Total Convictions in Texas for CHL holders in 2006 140 0.2275% Here's the URL and a table tabulating the specific crimes and conviction rates of CHL license holders v general populous. Texas DPS - Conviction Rates Reports Last edited by Hopyard; June 19th, 2008 at 08:37 PM. Reason: to add infor

June 19th, 2008, 08:06 PM	#4
JD Senior Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bedford County Virginia Posts: 7,973	Going by a quick skim, since 1996, less than 100 listed. FOR SHAME! __________________ *BLARG!* My DefCarry Blog.

June 19th, 2008, 08:16 PM	#5
DMan Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 323	In 12 years less than 100 "crimes and misdeeds" can be reported. This includes accidental discharges, and "oops, I left my gun in my carry on luggage" type stories. Granted there are some valid violent crimes, and I am sorry to read these, but in the end, in 12 years, this really isn't anything to be spooked over! __________________ If guns cause crime, then forks made Rosie O'Donnell fat!! Rosie - Say bye bye: You aren't much of a View anymore! Your true colors have been shown, and they are not Red, White, and Blue!

June 19th, 2008, 08:17 PM	#6
tabsr Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 199	Politicians And how many elected politicians in the same time period? __________________ "Politicians and Bureaucrats, depend very much on the complicity of their victims, and like criminals, are flummoxed when we don't play the victim role."

June 19th, 2008, 08:23 PM	#7
CAJUN600 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: TN Posts: 238	Hmmmmmmmm __________________ *If guns kill people, pens must cause misspelled words.*

June 19th, 2008, 08:55 PM	#9
TacticalCompact Ex Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Nevada Posts: 321	I find it amusing how they list people who were "charged" with a crime. They fail to mention whether or not these people were ever convicted.

June 19th, 2008, 08:59 PM	#10
bandit383 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 794	Wished they would also post the protection and/or saves due to CCW or armed during home invasions. Rick

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