Fairfax County Police (WoW) From VCDL (UGLY) - Page 3

TacticalCompact · June 24th, 2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SIXTO

I'm just having a hard time believing that anybody who is supposed to know better would act in such a foolish way... perhaps VCDL does have it right, I don't know.

I'm not, not in the least. LEOs are human, and no matter what your profession, humans will act like humans.

SIXTO · June 24th, 2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TacticalCompact

I'm not, not in the least. LEOs are human, and no matter what your profession, humans will act like humans.

true enough.

Natureboypkr · June 24th, 2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by msgt/ret

Wow ugly situation; please keep us updated on its resolution. As a North Carolina resident who frequents Virginia I would hate to see this become a trend.

Ditto

FN1910 · June 24th, 2008, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TacticalCompact

I'm not, not in the least. LEOs are human, and no matter what your profession, humans will act like humans.

If it had been one then I would not have been shocked but three and one being a supervisor seems to be totally out of line doing what is being reported. None of the three violations that they supposedly came up with are even reasonable. I really hope there is a lot more to this than just idiot cops which is what it would be if this iis true. They could have found some much different false charges that those to come up with.

mcp1810 · June 24th, 2008, 07:55 PM

After getting my last chief from that department, it doesn't surprise me a bit.

SelfDefense · June 24th, 2008, 08:29 PM

And the moral of the story is.....

Don't run red lights.

Eagleks · June 24th, 2008, 09:01 PM

I'll bet there isn't more to the story. I think you are giving the officers too much credit, assuming that they can't be that dumb. Yes they could.

FN1910 · June 24th, 2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagleks

I'll bet there isn't more to the story. I think you are giving the officers too much credit, assuming that they can't be that dumb. Yes they could.

I am friends with a bunch of LEO, am kin to a few and almost had one as a son-in-law. I really don't believe any of them are that dumb.

digitalexplr · June 24th, 2008, 10:58 PM

Just a little thread hijack.

Before you go to referring to LEO's as dumb, you should check out the education requirements of most departments. Your larger departments almost always require a bachelor's degree of applicants. Even for those who don't, getting promoted usually does. The higher you go in rank the higher degree required.

Many of you would be surprised to know that the, "dumb" cop that pulled you over may have a Master's Degree or even a PhD.

This is what makes stupid moves very costly for officers and departments. They can't claim ignorance.

Smaller and more rural departments are a different story.

FN1910 · June 24th, 2008, 11:14 PM

I think the way the term dumb is being used here does not refer to intelligence or lack of it rather their actions. As the former local Chief of Police was telling me that he always asks kids that get into trouble. Are you ignorant or stupid? Ignorance can be fixed as it is just not knowing any better. Stupid is knowing better but still screwing up. I have trouble thinking that these cops were ignorant and as you point out they were probably well educated. That leaves stupid as the alternative.

June 24th, 2008, 07:55 PM	#25
mcp1810 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,106	After getting my last chief from that department, it doesn't surprise me a bit. __________________ "And what would you do with your brain if you had one?" - Dorothy

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June 24th, 2008, 08:29 PM	#26
SelfDefense Distinguished Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tucson Posts: 1,526	And the moral of the story is..... Don't run red lights.

June 24th, 2008, 09:01 PM	#27
Eagleks Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 615	I'll bet there isn't more to the story. I think you are giving the officers too much credit, assuming that they can't be that dumb. Yes they could.

June 24th, 2008, 10:58 PM	#29
digitalexplr Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Jefferson City, MO Posts: 437	Just a little thread hijack. Before you go to referring to LEO's as dumb, you should check out the education requirements of most departments. Your larger departments almost always require a bachelor's degree of applicants. Even for those who don't, getting promoted usually does. The higher you go in rank the higher degree required. Many of you would be surprised to know that the, "dumb" cop that pulled you over may have a Master's Degree or even a PhD. This is what makes stupid moves very costly for officers and departments. They can't claim ignorance. Smaller and more rural departments are a different story.

June 24th, 2008, 11:14 PM	#30
FN1910 Ex Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SC Posts: 1,236	I think the way the term dumb is being used here does not refer to intelligence or lack of it rather their actions. As the former local Chief of Police was telling me that he always asks kids that get into trouble. Are you ignorant or stupid? Ignorance can be fixed as it is just not knowing any better. Stupid is knowing better but still screwing up. I have trouble thinking that these cops were ignorant and as you point out they were probably well educated. That leaves stupid as the alternative.