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Location: WV
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My NJ Experiment
OK, I'm going to apply for NJ CHL. Yes, I know it's almost impossible,yada,yada,yada.
This will be a "chronicle," of the process and I will post what happens during the whole ordeal. The form is actually quite simple, except for the "Letter of Need." I need folks input as how to pursue this. I've thought of several avenues: 1) Self defense 2)2nd Amendment 3) Equal Protection(only certain people getting CCWs in NJ) Should it be full of legal examples or just stick to the point. Any lawers on the board,I'd appreciate your input also. The fee is only $20, so that's not an issue to try. Here's the form in case others may be interested: http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sp-642.pdf I believe NJ,MD, and others need to be challenged, especially now.
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Location: Runthegun, USA
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This Might Be The Perfect Time To Do It
![]() You know...just thinking that if you REALLY wanted to experiment and spend a bit more money on the project - you could go to a pro-gun attorney and have the attorney draft your "letter of need" for you on law firm stationary. Probably right now and immediately following the SCOTUS ruling - if they think you're willing to make yet another Supreme Court case out of your potential denial then I'll bet that they will go ahead and issue you one. AKA They may just take the Path Of Least Resistance. Just a thought.
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Location: Southwest Missouri
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QKShooter I like the way you think. Press1280 good luck on your plan. I don't know what you do for a living, but if you could show need based on your job that might help validate your reason for applying.
Mike
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Location: Louisiana
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The timing is good right now.
I agree with the pro-gun lawyer idea to help you draft the letter of need.
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Location: Central Florida
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QKS...
I agree...might just be the right approach! press1280, go for it... ![]() Stay armed...2A all the way...stay safe!
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Location: Florida
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Good luck sir, I lived in NJ most of my life and my FL CCW is one major thing that keeps me from visiting.
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You might try contacting the NRA to see if they would recommend a pro-gun lawyer in your area.
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Location: College Station
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I would save the money on the lawyer now.
Just put down whatever you think is a good justification; and if you want to push the buttons, cite 2A and the individual right to keep arms. Then see what happens. You can always toss another 20 bucks away with a second application and different excuse--like self-defense if the first is tossed. Try 3 or 4 approaches if need be. Then, when it is obvious that they won't issue no matter what you put down, go see a 2A attorney, and seek help from NRA or similar. Because, at that point you will have solid evidence that the state is denying your 2A right, and not merely "regulating" it. Now, I'm assuming that you are "testing" the system. If you really want the license, perhaps you should see the attorney first, although I think there are going to be plenty of municipalities and "officials" who will be reconsidering their behavior. Go for it. |
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Location: Texas
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I tend to agree with Hopyard, but for purely selfish reasons. Having several issuances of denial would be a great start to a IMO, unbeatable case, based on the ruling. Something like that could easily turn into a 'shall issue' for NJ.
As far as the quickest way to get your personal license, I would go with Qk's recommendation. It's just a shame we have gotten so far away from our roots that its even a consideration. Good Luck and keep us posted.
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