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Old July 3rd, 2008, 02:23 PM   #1
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Question on Missouri Carry

From what the CC instructor here in KS told our class, Missouri has no state preemption, therefre munucipalities can restrict concealed carry. I can find nothing from either the AG or St. Louis Sheriff's dept regarding prohibition in St. Louis or other municipalities. The AG's website says MO permits are valid state wide.

This weekend I may be traveling to St. Louis for a couple of days.

So, I would appreciate a synopsis if anyone could provide it accurately and/or some link to a resource where I can verify the info.

I know the folks here are knowledgable enough to save me some time in my search for this info, and any help is greatly appreciated, so thanks in advance.

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Old July 3rd, 2008, 03:13 PM   #2
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Missouri has state preemption. This is the AG's site for concealed carry Missouri Attorney General's Office :: Concealed Weapons :: Concealed Carry Reciprocity
and this link will take you to a MSHP booklet on concealed carry http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSH...ts/SHP-863.pdf
I hope this answers your questions and enjoy your visit to Missouri.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 03:19 PM   #3
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You might take a look at Missouri Carry (http://www.missouricarry.org) if you need info on MO.

You're legal in MO just about anywhere that's not posted, federal (post office, etc), Dept of ED, state parks... I'm sure I'm missing something. The above linked PDF is very good.

Welcome to MO, and do be careful in St. Louis... there's some rather rough spots around.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 03:48 PM   #4
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Thanks for the info folks.

I know many (most) parts of St. Louis are pretty nasty, I'll try to avoid them as always.
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You might take a look at Missouri Carry (http://www.missouricarry.org) if you need info on MO.

You're legal in MO just about anywhere that's not posted, federal (post office, etc), Dept of ED, state parks... I'm sure I'm missing something. The above linked PDF is very good.

Welcome to MO, and do be careful in St. Louis... there's some rather rough spots around.
Why would you think State Parks are off limits? Missouri has no legally enforceable off limits areas. Federal off limits apply which includes schools, national parks, secure portions of airports, etc. No signs by anyone have any weight.

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Munucipities, can restrict, open carry & discharge. Also remember that the Arch is a national park. St. Louis restrict open carry.
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Why would you think State Parks are off limits? Missouri has no legally enforceable off limits areas. ... No signs by anyone have any weight.
Sorry, I misspoke on state parks, I was thinking about federal parks. Hopefully, this issue will resolve itself shortly.

He asked about what was legal, not what he could get away with. Legally, you can't carry in a posted location. Happily, the punishment for breaking that law is negligible, but it's still illegal.
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Carrying in privately owned businesses, restaurants and such that are posted no firearms is not a criminal act unless you fail to peacefully leave if you are asked.

Then you can be issued a citation with a $100 fine for 1st offense at the discretion of responding LEO's. No loss of permit for 1st offense.

If they do not confront you to provide you an opportunity to leave peacefully, and instead call the police, the LEO's usually won't cite you as you did not have an opportunity to leave or take your gun to the car.

Remember, you are a law abiding citizen who exercises a legal right to carry gun. It all depends on how you conduct yourself as to how people will respond to you, including LEO's. If you act like an idiot, expect to be treated like an idiot.

Welcome to Missouri and have fun in St. Louis!

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I try to refrain from acting like at idiot whenever possible.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 08:35 PM   #10
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Enjoy your trip to Missouri!

One other thing to be aware of: if you're going downtown near the Arch, be very careful about crossing the bridge into IL. Almost everytime I go down there I accidentally end up on the bridge and have to set foot in IL to turn around.

Not only is it a very dangerous area, it's illegal to have a loaded firearm in your car. No correlation there, I'm sure.

Have a safe trip!
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