N.C. CC applications increase - Page 2

imatt · July 8th, 2008, 11:23 AM

Do you have a link to the video feed?

Guvn3r · July 8th, 2008, 11:54 AM

Just moved to Greensboro last week, in the process of looking for a job...still carrying with my FL CCL. Thanks for the heads up on NC permit delays.

Moga · July 8th, 2008, 12:24 PM

I've heard that Georgia GFLs are on the rise too, especially in the less densely populated areas of northern Georgia, after a young lady was the victim of a heinous crime while hiking in the woods.

Meanwhile, where the crime rate is spiraling out of control in Atlanta, the people believe reconciliation with the criminal types of the city is the key to bringing crime under control.

588 · July 8th, 2008, 12:33 PM

I now live in a small town in NC also. The city I retired from (LEO) also had a gang problem but, the public didn't want to hear about it. Best things to do with gangs is flush them down the toilet--early--don't wait. The problem is defense atty. always are around, crying for them,pity the poor soul he had a hard life--never mind the victim, we'll anyway you get my viewpoint,good luck.

588 · July 8th, 2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Moga

I've heard that Georgia GFLs are on the rise too, especially in the less densely populated areas of northern Georgia, after a young lady was the victim of a heinous crime while hiking in the woods.

Meanwhile, where the crime rate is spiraling out of control in Atlanta, the people believe reconciliation with the criminal types of the city is the key to bringing crime under control.

It's ok to be a victim of a crime but to react against it, OMG your such a trouble maker. Whatever happened to common sense???

Paco · July 8th, 2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 588

The problem is defense atty. always are around, crying for them,pity the poor soul he had a hard life--never mind the victim

Don't get me started on the defense atty. I hear this victim crap all the time and I think back to what my track coach always told us, life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond.

I personally think when a trial is complete the defense atty should spend some time in lock up with his client. Sad part is there is a percentage that are decent atty and just looking to make sure things are right, its just the other 99% of them make them all look bad

Moga · July 8th, 2008, 01:24 PM

Paco, thanks for sharing that little nugget of advice from your coach. I'll have to put that one in my back pocket for future use.

Right now, there is a raging dispute going on on our neighborhood watch listserv. There has been a string of burglaries that eye witnesses have attributed to a team of kids and a young adult providing transportation from a nearby, lower income community. When ever the car is seen, 911 is contacted, and on several occasions, people have followed the suspects walking by car to keep 911 abreast of their location until the cops arrive. Understand that there has been 29 reported home burglaries and about a dozen cars stolen in just the last month. These bozos were seen on the property of 6-7 of those burglaries by eye witnesses. We want these guys caught. Well, some egg head started a firestorm when he accused us of racial profiling and in general vilifying young black men in the neighborhood with our efforts to help apprehend the young, misguided youths in question. Mind you, I live in a inner-city neighborhood that has undergone significant property and people improvement over the last ten or twelve years. It is as diverse in racial background as by income, religion, age, and every other category you can think.

Here's a little bit of what he wrote, in that vein.

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...there has been no mention of reconciliation. i don't see any mention of attempts to understand the perspective of these "perps", as they have been referred to by some of you. i don't see any acknowledgment of the anger that is likely pent up among these largely poor, almost wholly unemployed young black boys as they watch the homes they've lived in knocked down or gutted and replaced by half million "in-town" homes invariably inhabited by young white families. i don't see any attempt at dialog, facilitated by community outreach, local civic leaders, the police or anyone. i don't see any introspection on your part, of the role that you might be playing in all of this.

you are not and cannot be simply hapless victims playing no role other than being attacked. no relationships and no neighborhoods as collections of relationships work that way. the gentry is almost always viewed as the enemy by the poor because rather than stealing tv's and lawn mowers, they "steal" whole communities.

My head nearly exploded when I read this drivel last night. But even more astounding is the fact that some other households in the neighborhood agreed with this guy's point of view. Mind you neither I or many of my neighbors are anything like this guy has assumed, and I certainly don't share his "outlook" of the world in which we live. It would appear that he needs to make a better effort at getting to know his neighbors before he makes a sweeping characterization of us all.

Thank goodness the majority of responders were as outraged as I about his insinuations. May be there is sanity left in the world after all.

Blue, sorry for the OT contribution all. I just had to get this one off my chest as it has been bugging me all morning.

imatt · July 8th, 2008, 02:03 PM

Moga, that's what happens when bleeding hearts take over. Who wrote that, a city official?

purple88yj · July 8th, 2008, 02:13 PM

I work in a little shopping center bordering the hood on one side and the barrio on the other in Winston-Salem. There have been a lot of gang style tagging going on in this area. I have seen "13", Crips, Bloods, and Kings tags mostly.

The downtown section is starting to see more crime than in the past, partly due to an increase of residential building in the form of condos and converting old buildings to residences.

The Triad area has been growing at a tremendous rate over the last four or five years. With that comes the problems.

NCHornet · July 16th, 2008, 04:35 PM

Well I am glad Mayberry is still Mayberry, but I wonder how long I can enjoy that? Still am armed everywhere I go. All of you NC folks out there please join Grass Roots of NC, most states have these and ours in NC is very strong. Nobody does more for our gun rights than this organization. We have some important things were trying to get changed with NC's CCW laws, like the stupid law about carrying in places that serve booze, charge admission, parades, funerals, state parks etc..... Oh school zones. It is Grass Roots that helps to bring about these changes. I think 08 is the off year, but in 09 we will hopefully see a rewriting of the CCW does and don'ts but we need all your help.
NCH

July 8th, 2008, 11:23 AM	#11
imatt Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NC Posts: 257	Do you have a link to the video feed? __________________ ~Matt imatt.us Track HR 1022

July 8th, 2008, 11:54 AM	#12
Guvn3r Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida/NC Posts: 26	Just moved to Greensboro last week, in the process of looking for a job...still carrying with my FL CCL. Thanks for the heads up on NC permit delays. __________________ "...The most common manifestation of hoplophobia is the idea that instruments possess a will of their own, apart from that of their user." - Col. Cooper

July 8th, 2008, 12:24 PM	#13
Moga Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 176	I've heard that Georgia GFLs are on the rise too, especially in the less densely populated areas of northern Georgia, after a young lady was the victim of a heinous crime while hiking in the woods. Meanwhile, where the crime rate is spiraling out of control in Atlanta, the people believe reconciliation with the criminal types of the city is the key to bringing crime under control. __________________ Dont believe OBAMA: http://www.nraila.org/OBAMA/ They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, 1759. Proud Member of GeorgiaCarry.Org

July 8th, 2008, 02:03 PM	#18
imatt Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NC Posts: 257	Moga, that's what happens when bleeding hearts take over. Who wrote that, a city official? __________________ ~Matt imatt.us Track HR 1022

July 8th, 2008, 02:13 PM	#19
purple88yj Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Piedmont Triad, NC Posts: 1,099	I work in a little shopping center bordering the hood on one side and the barrio on the other in Winston-Salem. There have been a lot of gang style tagging going on in this area. I have seen "13", Crips, Bloods, and Kings tags mostly. The downtown section is starting to see more crime than in the past, partly due to an increase of residential building in the form of condos and converting old buildings to residences. The Triad area has been growing at a tremendous rate over the last four or five years. With that comes the problems. __________________ "A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in ... And how many want out." British Prime Minister Tony Blair

July 8th, 2008, 12:33 PM	#14
588 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 61	I now live in a small town in NC also. The city I retired from (LEO) also had a gang problem but, the public didn't want to hear about it. Best things to do with gangs is flush them down the toilet--early--don't wait. The problem is defense atty. always are around, crying for them,pity the poor soul he had a hard life--never mind the victim, we'll anyway you get my viewpoint,good luck.

July 16th, 2008, 04:35 PM	#20
NCHornet Distinguished Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mt Airy, NC Posts: 1,403	Well I am glad Mayberry is still Mayberry, but I wonder how long I can enjoy that? Still am armed everywhere I go. All of you NC folks out there please join Grass Roots of NC, most states have these and ours in NC is very strong. Nobody does more for our gun rights than this organization. We have some important things were trying to get changed with NC's CCW laws, like the stupid law about carrying in places that serve booze, charge admission, parades, funerals, state parks etc..... Oh school zones. It is Grass Roots that helps to bring about these changes. I think 08 is the off year, but in 09 we will hopefully see a rewriting of the CCW does and don'ts but we need all your help. NCH __________________ Carry On!! NCHornet

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