GOPony

Ok my daughter is 20 and had two friends staying for a week. They all wanted to ride in the mustang to go out to dinner. They all piled in (not easy to get in and out from the back), I got in and then realized that my spare gun was in the middle console (I occasionally do leave my backup in my car that is in the garage and locked). Knowing that i was going to be drinking a couple i wanted to get it out. So I told them sorry if you don't like guns but i have to remove one so we can go play in the mustang.

Now considering on of the "friends" likes my daughter and it is a guy, there may have been some benefit to doing this :), but none the less it was the first time i have had to show, display or anything since CCW

I am sure i will get hit about leaving gun in the car, but frankly with the garage locked, the car locked, the console locked and with the house and car alarm active this is probably the least accessible gun i have.
Of course my daughter gave me the "look" the female friend said i was just like her dad (I feel old). The male didn't say a word

Hopyard

I bet if you really wanted to find a way, you could have taken it out and put it away with no one knowing.

Try keeping a hand towel in the car. You can cover stuff up easily; use it to pick up and hide the gun (or something else); and it can come in handy if something spills, or the seat needs to be covered for some reason. I always keep a couple of good quality towels in the car.

(If you have to change a tire, you can use it to wipe sweat or Goop off your hands and face. If it is dead winter, you can cover your ears or head if need be--yeah, it would look weird; I'm just making the point that keeping towels in the car is a good idea.)

David in FL

If, at age 20 they don't realize that it's a tough world out there and that you need to be prepared to take responsibility for your own safety, now's a good time for them to learn that lesson!

It's also a good time for Junior to learn that your daughter's daddy is armed and could be dangerous, given the right provocation!

youngda9

That would have been a great time to ask the "what are your intentions with my daughter?" question to him.

With a little planning in advance you could have snuck into the garage and taken care of this probably. Oh well. You're legal.

Did your daughter know you carry prior to this? Was their any following discussion after the friends left?

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Kerbouchard

I find the fact that you would remove a gun from the car because you might be 'having a few', but would still get behind the wheel to drive your daughter and your friends around to be a much bigger deal than the gun.

If you won't be sober enough to have a gun in the console, than I don't believe you would be sober enough to 'play in the mustang', especially with your daughter and her friends.

I believe your actions were irresponsible and while I applaud you for disarming while drinking, I have nothing good to say about somebody who would 'play in a mustang' with their daughter and friends while/after drinking.

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GOPony

The towel is a good idea, but frankly in a mustang with 4 people anthing you try to pull out of the consol hidden is going to draw attention. My daughter knows i carry, in fact i have tried to convince her to carry, but then again most of the time she is on campus (stupid laws). She carries mace and a whistle. While it won't help with someone with a gun she is more prepared than most. BTW she was once approach at a party by a drunk guy wanting to "be with her" and had some free flowing hands. The guy ended up with a broke nose which he didn't feel because he was curled up on the ground in the fetal position cradeling his privates. Everyone clapped after she defended herself.

goldshellback

It seems the spare gun, kept in a locked console in the locked Mustang that is kept parked in the locked garage with the house security alarm engaged is pretty safe under the 'layered' security........although I doubt my own capicty of keeping it there, it works for you.

As for exposing your sidearm to the 'kids', thier adults and guests in your residence, they'll get over it. I'll bet they might even want to go to the range to see what it's like (hint, hint).........and for your daughters 'possible suitor', it's best he knows that her Daddy takes care of business, and your daughter is YOUR business. She's an adult but still your daughter.......'neuf' said.
You removed the sidearm in a responsible manner to facilitate an evening of festivities. It's the law and you showed them a very responsible, mature act, even at 20-something seeing that 'showed' them how to behave WRT firearm ownership. I say good job!

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farronwolf

No biggie. So they know you have a gun and sometimes keep it in the car. +1 on the boy knowing that dad is armed, maybe it will keep him on the straight and narrow with your daughter.

One question though, does MO forbid any alcohol consumption when carrying, or just being intoxicated? If it just forbids being intoxicated, and you were going to have a couple, (assuming that would not make you intoxicated), what is the difference in driving and and carrying your gun?

I don't disarm here in Texas if I am going to have a beer with dinner or whatever. If I am not impaired to drive, then I ain't getting rid of my gun either.

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GOPony

first off the playing was to take place prior to dinner. And other than a few scratches of the tires and throwing them back into their seats while getting on the insterstate, there was no law broken. Secondly in missouri there is a set limit that makes it illegal to drive. Having two beers at a resturant with dinner does not make me over the legal limit (and yes i have proof of this). Third in Missouri there is no set legal limit on drinking with a gun (for example .08) it mearly says impaired. Most will tell you it is the same as the dui limit, thats fine for them but i am not willing to shell out the money for lawyers to prove this to be the case, hence i removed the gun.

while i appreciate your comments, i did want to clarify for you what i meant in my post.

Tubby45

Maybe it will interest him enough to get a gun of his own. You two could share a common bond. Also, the more gun owners the better.

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